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I'm having a massive problem when playing. I will build my navies all along my coast but the MOMENT I try and move them to a single place to make an armada the enemy's navy will just appear, ever single time. I'm not sure what to do but once they get a larger navy then me I'm just done unless I wait years to build up a navy bigger then the enemy's entire armada in a single province...
 

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Which countries are we talking about exactly?

But generally you want to turn the psychic navy against its owner - build a few transports, maybe galleys, (cheap) far from the enemy, send them to sea, then while the AI fleet is distracted murdering those with an overwhelming fleet, try and see if you can move your other ships together.
 

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Yup!
That's what I do as France when I want to conquer England. First I build my real navy in my channel provinces, and then I build 1 or 2 galleys in the mediteranean.
When the time comes, I send my galley around the channel, and make the english navy follow it, far away from the channel.
While the british navy is away, I then send my real fleet, with armies to cross the channel and conquer england.
 

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That sounds an awful lot like an exploit. Shouldn't this be fixed with a patch or something? That is, if there is a patch coming in the future of course.
 

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How is that an exploit? The A.I. is going after the enemy navy, if you got rid of that the game would be unplayable.

It's an exploit becuase if the British are chasing a few galleys around Spain and get the message that a huge army is crossing the channel it should turn around to attack the bigger and more important fleet. However, the AI is already cheating like Tiger Woods so i agree that it's not a totally unfair tactic
 

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It's an exploit becuase if the British are chasing a few galleys around Spain and get the message that a huge army is crossing the channel it should turn around to attack the bigger and more important fleet. However, the AI is already cheating like Tiger Woods so i agree that it's not a totally unfair tactic
It is an unfair tactic because this renders nations that rely on naval power for protection extremely vulnerable. However, I still abuse it.
 

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That sounds an awful lot like an exploit. Shouldn't this be fixed with a patch or something? That is, if there is a patch coming in the future of course.
AI gets satelite radar, you got brains ?
Seems fair to me.
Sometimes one wins, other times the other comes in hand.
 

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So does the AI actually know where all your fleets are all the time? I've felt like the AI has been scrambling fleets to intercept my ships when they are clearly out of their range of view.
 

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Actually what I do a lot of times is vassalize Holland and make them form Netherlands, you got a tiny vassal with a shitload of boats who also has 'le satelite' and can hunt the AI down in the same manner.
 

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The way I see it, it is not cheating:
- England has no idea how many troops I have ready to cross the channel because of FOW.
- I send in a fake decoy army to lure in the enemy into a trap.

It has been done countless times in real life, it's called strategy!
 

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a strategy that has never and would never work, since the admiralty are far too intelligent to send the channel fleet anywhere else under any circumstances-to OP build up and assemble your fleet in peacetime.....
 

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More prosaically, it's a strategy that would never work because, oh, yeah, the admiralty wouldn't have spy satellites telling it about my bait fleet ten seazones away. Therefore they could not send a large navy to attack it.

Fine, perhaps it's necessary for the AI to be able to operate. BUT if the AI is going to make any attempts at surprise and subtle naval maneuvering pointless - you know, the historical strategies - then I fail to see what's so bad or horrible or criminal about using the strategies that the AI's programming allow us to.
 
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Build a bigger navy.
 

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It's a nice payback , as England cannot see my galleys outside of the port of Andalucia , but they are still chasing me ...
Venice tends to keep a few ships at home , though , hard to invade them if you're Austria or Hungary.