Can you conquer his lands? i am hispania and trying to get a cb but the fabricate claim doesnt seems to work against him.
thx.
thx.
How to get a CB on the pope?
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Become king of italy then you will have a de jure claim over his lands(not the easy way)
Also i think that fabricate claim will eventually work
You can't, as far as I'm aware, as a Catholic. That is unless you somehow manage to crown yourself king of italy before rome becomes de jure papal territory
I'm pretty sure you can conquer Latium if you fabricate claims, but that can take ages sometimes.
Yes taking latium could make it or... The Kingdom of Italy^^
If I build up a strong empire the HRE mostly is weak enough to fight for the lands of Italy.
If I build up a strong empire the HRE mostly is weak enough to fight for the lands of Italy.
You could also get a king-bishop, appoint him antipope, and then push his claim on Rome. Bonus vassalpope too.
Step 1: Send your court chaplain to increase technology.
Step 2: When he becomes heretic, follow his lead.
Step 3: Now that the pope is a religious enemy, declare a holy war on him.
Step 4: As quickly as possible, convert back to catholic (it will cost 500 piety) using the decision in the intrigue menu.
Step 5: Get defeated by the pope and all the catholics who join him in his war.
Step 6: Start again from step 1.
I haven't tested this method, so it is possible that the war will cancel when you convert back to catholicism, or the decision won't be available during the war.
Step 2: When he becomes heretic, follow his lead.
Step 3: Now that the pope is a religious enemy, declare a holy war on him.
Step 4: As quickly as possible, convert back to catholic (it will cost 500 piety) using the decision in the intrigue menu.
Step 5: Get defeated by the pope and all the catholics who join him in his war.
Step 6: Start again from step 1.
I haven't tested this method, so it is possible that the war will cancel when you convert back to catholicism, or the decision won't be available during the war.
Actually not an answer to the OP's question but I think there are a couple of dates during Viterbo and Orvieto Papacies when Rome (county) is not controlled by the Papacy. I think it is held by HRE or some minor Italian duke. So, fabricating a claim and pushing it might work, if the block against fabricating is caused by the Pope holding Rome, not the county of Rome itself. Check the 13th century dates.
Alternatively, you could get yourself the Byzantine Crown somehow and use Imperial Reconquest. Of course, that won't work in about 2 days when 1.08 is delivered.
That is so strange! How will the ERE conqueror the pope's land now and form the Roman Empire?
More sensibly; the AI will no longer have re-conquered the entirety of Italy and the Balkans by 1100.
OTOH attacking the Pope could result in a conflict with a Catholic protector of the Papacy (most likely the HRE or France) or a Catholic coalition; and a Catholic ruler will be have to be excommunicated for doing so.