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I'm playing as Ethiopia, and I'm going for Mare Nostrum. I kinda want to be HRE and EoC as Rome though, so the first thing I need to do is force Peace of Westphalia. I have no idea how to do that is. Every time I play in Europe, the league war either never fires or results in a decisive Protestant League Victory.

So, how does one ensure that a stalemate ensues in the league war, so that the peace of westphalia fires?
 

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Technically by joining the protestant side, thereby making them strong enough to feel safe declaring, then making sure WS stays within acceptable bounds and dragging out the war until a peace without supremacy fires.

Realistically: lol, no chance

Peace of Westphalia is crap. You either lead Protestants, which is almost impossible as a non-protestant (especially since we still don't have a clue about modifiers. Looking at you, DDRJake), or you play for at least a month IRL time.

I tried to go for it a ton of times and did manage to pull it off twice. It's not worth it.
 

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Only two ways the peace fires: If the war ends in a peace deal without the "Religious Supremacy" demand enforced (which AFAIK, the AI will *never* do, the main attacker/defender will never offer a peace deal to their opposite that doesn't have that demand, meaning you have to either be the HRE or, more likely, in charge of the Protestant League for it to ever happen) or if it manages to last long enough for the event to fire, (which I think takes several decades in-game) Both are practically luck-based, no idea how to make sure you are the leader of the Protestant League (who is the only one that can start the League War) and succeeding in the dance required to make the war last long enough for the peace on either side is a nightmare.

I can understand *why* that's the case -doing the united HRE achievement pretty much requires the ability to enforce religious unity, and the nature of the leagues means you can't rely on a player always being in a position to say whether to go all the way or not- but I really think you should have to work hard to make a Protestant or Catholic HRE a thing, not game the system to force an HRE where any Christian can be elector or rule.
 

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I've most reliably got it to fire before by letting the war drag on for a long time, plenty of deaths and war exhaustion, and then intervening to help the losing side, trying ot keep warscore fairly close to 0.

Only any good if you can wrangle being able to intervene at the right time, though, and useless if the Protestants aren't declaring.
 

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If you watch some videos from MrFlorryWorry, he routinely does it (when he plays something as casual as HRE politics). So definitely not impossible. Check out his play through as tribal ottomans couple of patches ago: