How to flip to Reformed

[Tub]

How do you do it? It seems to me like in the interim period between the Protestant Reformation and the 'Reformed' Reformation, all my provinces have already flipped to Protestant. This precludes them from being flipped to Reformed, so it's not really possible to go Reformed at all.

 

[Conch]

just wait until you can convert them?

 

[Tub]

just wait until you can convert them?

I don't think that'll be possible with a 12 base tax Lubeck.

 

[wetblowdryer]

Ummm... Make reformed rebels convert those protestant provinces? That is all I can think of.

 

[Comes Imperii]

You can do several things in order to prevent your provinces from converting to Protestant.
Basically, it boils down to study the event MTTH modifiers for religious conversions. Gaining as many cardinals as possible, taking religious ideas, being defender of the faith are all very good anti-protestant measures which reduce the chances of your provinces becoming protestant to very low levels.

 

[Golladan]

You can't flip protestant provinces to reformed? Why not?

 

[Mauer]

Choose the religious idea group, hire an inquisitor, take the decisions that give missionary chance at the cost of revoltrisk or heretic tolerance, build forts in the province in question, increase your stability. There really is no reason to not be able to convert a 12 base tax province.

 

[unmerged(65679)]

Can somebody explain to me why Reformed NEVER takes hold the way Protestant does? I thought when religious wars begin it was supposed to be equal chance for R or P. I love the idea of +Adivsors for Reformed and the trade bonuses but damn its a seriously hard decision when practically nobody else is reformed.....often you're the only one and thats political suicide.

 

[sinkingmist]

Maybe I got lucky, but in my Hansa game (where I owned the entire Lubeck trade region by the Protestant reformation), I managed to keep everything Catholic until Reformed was available, and I made the switch really easily, with literally every single province converting by event.

What I had when Protestant reformation hit:
1) Full religious ideas
2) Several cardinals
3) Often was Papal controller

 

[Kraxis]

Yeah those things certainly cut down on the chances of Protestants popping up. And once the Reformed come by and you switch to them you lose all those anti-Protestant benefits and are now open to Reformed conversion (but not Protestant because by then they have largely run their course).

So, not really a lot of luck, but more of a carefully managed transition, even if you didn't know it would result in it. Of course you can't be entirely sure the Protestants won't come by, but a couple of them won't be much of a problem.

 

[Tub]

Well, it's a shame that I've now irreparably ruined my Hansa game. Back to the drawing board, I guess >.<

Maybe this time Denmark won't take aristocratic ideas either, so that'll be good.

 

[sinkingmist]

Well, it's a shame that I've now irreparably ruined my Hansa game. Back to the drawing board, I guess >.<

Maybe this time Denmark won't take aristocratic ideas either, so that'll be good.

They pretty much always take aristocratic ideas.

 

[balmung60]

Can somebody explain to me why Reformed NEVER takes hold the way Protestant does? I thought when religious wars begin it was supposed to be equal chance for R or P. I love the idea of +Adivsors for Reformed and the trade bonuses but damn its a seriously hard decision when practically nobody else is reformed.....often you're the only one and thats political suicide.

The events that flip provinces to Protestant have substantial MTTH modifiers over a large area (northern Germany, Scandinavia, and Britain), while Reformed does not and has very large penalties to occurring if you do not have Innovative Ideas, large penalties if you DO have Aristocratic Ideas (which the AI likes to take), and has a large penalty to happening in Protestant countries, which there are likely to already be a lot of.

 

[Conch]

Do you have an admin tech of at least 10? At 10 and above you get access to several decisions that give missionary strength. In general, dont switch religions before admin 10 when your high base tax provinces dont get flipped