How to fix Dutch independence war.

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

ATM the Dutch very rarely even survive their war for independence, let alone win it. That's incredibly sad. One of the greatest powers of the period, doesn't even get to exist in the game.

I have thought of a couple ways to fix this:

When the Netherlands spawn, they get an event with a MTTH of 1 that gives:
Voor het vaderland:

+20% Morale of armies
+20% Morale of navies
+50% Land forcelimit
-25% Army maintenence
-25% Navy maintence
+2 Diplomatic reputation
Lasts for 10 years

This should really help them in their war for independence, and i would add some negative events to the people at war with them.

And also a Dutch golden age event with a MTTH of 200 that gives:
De gouden eeuw:
-5% technology cost
-10% idea cost
-15% development cost
Lasts for 10 years.

 

[ShadowCammy]

I see them survive all the time, though. Out of the 8 games I've played and finished, only two of those had no Netherlands in 1821 due to them never winning their war. Maybe it's just your luck with them never winning. A buff would be neat, though, considering how powerful they were in colonization and in European politics.

 

[magnusvejby]

I mostly see them formed by one of the dutch minors, since i never see the Burgundian inheritance happen, so i don't know if that is really needed.

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[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

I mostly see them formed by one of the dutch minors, since i never see the Burgundian inheritance happen, so i don't know if that is really needed.

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[Nuklearius]

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[TheMeInTeam]

NED doesn't even make top 5 of "nations that were significant in the period but are no-shows in the game". Mughals, Qing, Aq Qoyunlu, Morocco, Bukhara get no help either, and all but Morocco (which usually gets pounded on by an unholy alliance and rarely makes it into Songhai) usually die instantly or don't exist.

Rather than railroading further, sometimes having nations live and sometimes not is the way to go, based on fluid dynamics rather than tag-specific stuff.

Also, the burgundian inheritance is both ahistorical and agameplay. It was a pretty big fluke in the first place and NED revolting from HRE emperor the same way as it did Spain isn't exactly historical anyway (Spain vs Austria has very different logistics fighting there). NED declaring independence doesn't even make sense in some contexts.

"NED declares independence" from Burgundy or Austria makes about as much sense as "Novgorod declares independence" or "Greece declares independence" or "Aragon declares independence"...yet only one of these gets a special-sauce "NDNHE" to drag it into existence, and that one doesn't need even MORE .

 

[magnusvejby]

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Yay us both then