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So I have started my first playthrough as Germany, and I am at 1937. Now I have decided to create a Stug version of Panzer II and to convert all Panzer IIs to this version(welded armor, fixed turret, close support gun). Now when I created this version it seemed to work well to convert the old Panzer IIs, as there was a button that you could check in order to start converting equipment. However then I realised if I wanted the new version to be SP arty rather than a tank and had to change this in the equipment designer as it would not do it by itself when changing armament. So I did, however now there is no convert equipment button for my new SP arty version of Panzer II.

In the earlier version I would easily have been able to convert equipment from tank to SP arty. Why can I not do this now?
 
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Well that is a big let down. This was the part I was really looking forward to.
 
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Well, if it's already in 'known issues', that probably means it'll get fixed faster.
well ...
now, several months later ... i still have the problem, not just with Tanks but also Planes .. pretty much anything .. i can't upgrade at all .. even planes which went from Variant A to Variant B with a little buff .. no upgrade function ..
 
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well ...
now, several months later ... i still have the problem, not just with Tanks but also Planes .. pretty much anything .. i can't upgrade at all .. even planes which went from Variant A to Variant B with a little buff .. no upgrade function ..

That is weird. I just played today and created a Fighter variant. After switching the production line to the new variant I had the green upgrade button in the bottom left of the box to switch equipment conversion on.
 

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That is weird. I just played today and created a Fighter variant. After switching the production line to the new variant I had the green upgrade button in the bottom left of the box to switch equipment conversion on.
hmm .. the only mod i had active was more division icons which i disabled .. no effect.
and core with compliance .. which should have no effect on equipment at all .. and also here .. disabled .. no effect.
no matter which version i play there's no equipment conversion since i installed no step back (5 days ago)
 

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hmm .. the only mod i had active was more division icons which i disabled .. no effect.
and core with compliance .. which should have no effect on equipment at all .. and also here .. disabled .. no effect.
no matter which version i play there's no equipment conversion since i installed no step back (5 days ago)

Ok…. What conversion are you attempting?
 

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several.
one is fighter_II A to fighter_II B as one of many plane samples
several old tank versions to a newer version ... both with the same and with new chassis
old infantry equip to newer one
old arty/anti tank/anti air to new one
nothing, literaly nothing is working. there is plane and simply no upgrade button.
and yes i decomissioned countless tank and plane designs..
 
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Fighter variant to fighter variant should work as long as the latter is a variant of the former.

As someone stated earlier: Tank variant upgrades don‘t seem to work at the moment (listed in the known issues)

You can‘t upgrade old infantry equipment or arty, AT or AA equipment at all since these are not variants. The upgrade are done automatically at division level. That among other things (the others are deploying new tank models to the division or new plane types to air wings) the upgrade priority in the unit deployment screen is for.
 
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several.
one is fighter_II A to fighter_II B as one of many plane samples
several old tank versions to a newer version ... both with the same and with new chassis
old infantry equip to newer one
old arty/anti tank/anti air to new one
nothing, literaly nothing is working. there is plane and simply no upgrade button.
and yes i decomissioned countless tank and plane designs..
OK, so in order to upgrade the equipment it has to be in your stockpile...NOT currently being used by your divisions...AND marked as Obsolete*.
So if all of those Fighter IIA are currently assigned to active air wings...you can't upgrade them. However, as you produce new Fighter IIB, the IIAs will move to your stockpile (assuming you aren't also trying to build them up to full ToE). Then once you have them in the stockpile you can check the upgrade box and start upgrading them.

Infantry equipment can't be upgraded (and has never been able to be), same for Art/AT/AA.

Tanks are mostly the same.
Equipment to be upgraded from has to be marked as Obsolete*, in the stockpile, and the same generation**.
It was planned to make the conversions much quicker, but they can't seem to get the code right*** so they removed it and the only savings is not having to re-supply the special resources except for *new* ones.

* Marking captured/Lend-Lease equipment Obsolete isn't possible, so you can only convert these if the original country marks them...which for countries that no longer exist (i.e., not a GiE) isn't possible.

** Prior to NSB, you could convert either the current or previous generation to SPAT(TD)/SPArt/SPAAG, but that changed with the new system and you can't change the chassis generation.

*** It was quickly pointed out that it would be quicker and cheaper to build AFVs using a two-step process. First build the Chassis with minimal equipment and then upgrade to the final design. So they changed it quickly to just be reduced resource cost (i.e., you don't have to pay the same resources twice), and factoring in any conversion speed boni.
 
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OK, so in order to upgrade the equipment it has to be in your stockpile...NOT currently being used by your divisions...AND marked as Obsolete*.
So if all of those Fighter IIA are currently assigned to active air wings...you can't upgrade them. However, as you produce new Fighter IIB, the IIAs will move to your stockpile (assuming you aren't also trying to build them up to full ToE). Then once you have them in the stockpile you can check the upgrade box and start upgrading them.

Infantry equipment can't be upgraded (and has never been able to be), same for Art/AT/AA.

Tanks are mostly the same.
Equipment to be upgraded from has to be marked as Obsolete*, in the stockpile, and the same generation**.
It was planned to make the conversions much quicker, but they can't seem to get the code right*** so they removed it and the only savings is not having to re-supply the special resources except for ones.

* Marking captured/Lend-Lease equipment Obsolete isn't possible, so you can only convert these if the original country marks them...which for countries that no longer exist (i.e., not a GiE) isn't possible.

** Prior to NSB, you could convert either the current or previous generation to SPAT(TD)/SPArt/SPAAG, but that changed with the new system and you can't change the chassis generation.

*** It was quickly pointed out that it would be quicker and cheaper to build AFVs using a two-step process. First build the Chassis with minimal equipment and then upgrade to the final design. So they changed it quickly to just be reduced resource cost (i.e., you don't have to pay the same resources twice), and factoring in any conversion speed boni.
thx for the effort, i'm aware of the unused stockpile prerequesite, it would at least show the upgrade buttion in grey for no available items to upgrade but even that is missing.
i'm drowning in old equipment which is why the lack of upgrade functionality annoys me so much. i'm used to have it available. AT LEAST for planes, tanks and ships (for ship's i didn't try yet but i assume the manual upgrade still works) but everything seems broken since i installed NSB
do i have to throw in the towel and install an equipment mod?
 

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thx for the effort, i'm aware of the unused stockpile prerequesite, it would at least show the upgrade buttion in grey for no available items to upgrade but even that is missing.
i'm drowning in old equipment which is why the lack of upgrade functionality annoys me so much. i'm used to have it available. AT LEAST for planes, tanks and ships (for ship's i didn't try yet but i assume the manual upgrade still works) but everything seems broken since i installed NSB
do i have to throw in the towel and install an equipment mod?

As stated: You can‘t upgrade infantry equipment, artillery, anti-aircraft and anti-tank cannons since the models provided by a new tech are not a variant of the old one. Would be a strange thing too, upgrading a Mauser 98k to a StuG 44 just by sending it back to the factory for re-tooling.

Yes: Ship upgrades work.
 
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thx for the effort, i'm aware of the unused stockpile prerequesite, it would at least show the upgrade buttion in grey for no available items to upgrade but even that is missing.
i'm drowning in old equipment which is why the lack of upgrade functionality annoys me so much. i'm used to have it available. AT LEAST for planes, tanks and ships (for ship's i didn't try yet but i assume the manual upgrade still works) but everything seems broken since i installed NSB
do i have to throw in the towel and install an equipment mod?
Do you have death or dishonor?
 
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Do you have death or dishonor?
nope, people recommended not to buy it. it's not worth it and according to the added features .. i agree.
plz don't tell me paradox messed up core features which worked before NSB but with NSB depend on an "optional" DLC or in other words .. intentionally broke core functionality to force people to buy a years old DLC
 
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nope, people recommended not to buy it. it's not worth it and according to the added features .. i agree.
plz don't tell me paradox messed up core features which worked before NSB but with NSB depend on an "optional" DLC or in other words .. intentionally broke core functionality to force people to buy a years old DLC
Conversion is part of that dlc. Without it, you cant convert.
 
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