Yeah trust me, Ming without MoH is a ton harder. Makes Indochina and Tibet area starts incredibly difficult. I did a Nepal game and ended up in four different wars with Ming, barely making it out alive each time.
With MoH in my Bengal -> Hindu Bharat game they kept dropping me as a tributary only to declare war later on to re-tributize me—twice. I couldn’t hold them back from steam rolling over the Himalayas. Playing in India, they should leave me alone but in MoH they have annexed northern Burma.