In short: that is the purpose of rebels in this game; considering on how the revolt size increases drastically with overextension I'd say that their ultimate purpose is to police and hamper the player expansion speed no matter what. There are several ways to deal with rebels in this game but neither is fun, engaging or rewarding for me. In fact the most appropriate adjective for rebels in EU IV and all Paradox games in general is: mind-boggling chore which to be fair reached new heights with EU IV after patch 1.5 and especially after patch 1.6 and above. Not even the infamous "underground resistance" of HOI III TFH is more annoying than EU IV because rebels in HOI III TFH don´t spawn with mechanized infantry and heavy armor so an automated TH HQ can effectively take care of them without annoying the player too much.
Seriously, though, how am I meant to expand as a small nation if I get screwed by rebel no matter what I do?
Such fun game, much pleasure, many thanks Paradox.
Seriously, though, how am I meant to expand as a small nation if I get screwed by rebel no matter what I do? I used +200 ducats to buy mercs to kill one stack of rebels, but, bad luck, they spawned in mountains with a better general and therefore I am bound to lose. And that's only one stack among others. And, of course, they all have my FL in mountains, so fair.
I didn't reduce Local Authonomy, in fact I increased it, yet I still get that. However, I could always accept demands right? No : it would ruin the whole game because, without dynastic naming, I'll be called Karaman without a Karamanolgu on the throne. So fun Paradox. Heck, even the Ottomans broke because three stacks of rebels spawned in GREECE because I sieged ANATOLIA.
This is completely unfair, unfun and stupid.
Actually, one thing I've found doing 2 1.8 games is that a good way of dealing with rebels is to simply let them happen and defeat them.
This reduces the unrest either by some large number or simply to 0. So I found that simply stationing my troops nearby then putting them on top of the provinces likely to revolt such that my units have the defensive advantages (terrain for instance) about the time the risk gets to 95% results in beating the rebels and keeping the autonomy numbers lower and thus taxes and such, higher.
If you are going to do things this way and want rebellions to rise so you can crush them and shut down the unrest in the area, be sure to *not* put troops on provinces with high unrest before getting to the 95% level as it will otherwise take longer to finally make it to 100% thus delaying you from using your armies elsewhere until you've gotten your rebel crushing out of the way
If you start as an OPM in the ROTW it is not easier to expand, quite the opposite because of the effect of 40-100% local autonomy and fairly low base tax provinces. Btw diplo annexation in this patch is totally not worth it if your are an OPM and your vassal has wrong religion and culture. Why? because after diplo annexing you'll have to put up with lots of unrest (especially if you have low tolerance) until you are able to at least convert the religion; if you don’t want to deal with the unavoidable Z-rebels you have to make the provinces economic value nearly worthless by half the game duration by increasing the LA to 100%. (...) So under these circunstancies it is much better to core the provinces yourself until you reach a certain critical mass (...) If you want to core yourself you can´t take too many provinces in a short period of time because you can´t deal with oversized BS z-rebellions that are based on base tax and OE regardless of LA (...) If you start as Austria, France and the like then WC has never been easier because you are already rich and transferring the occupation to vassals allows you to expand at the speed of light even if you’ll only see the real benefits of those conquests much later in-game (...)
So you've defeated 6 native nations and took 10 provinces from them; I reckon that the people left alive in those provinces are fast learners/breeders (or whatever) because in only 20 months they’ve managed not only to understand the Spanish military tactics but also how to build the modern weapons that they never seen before and to breed/resurrect 65 000 men and thousands of horses to train them to such a standard that not even the mighty Spanish empire could defeat them. Sounds legit and it is totally your fault :rofl:The answer was no. Killing 65,000 rebels wasn't feasible so I had to let it all go
But completely my fault, so I don't hold a grudge
