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I want to make things interesting in my game, so I was wondering if there is a way I can simply crash the world economy. Its the late game, the year is 1930.
 

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I want to make things interesting in my game, so I was wondering if there is a way I can simply crash the world economy. Its the late game, the year is 1930.
Occupy the world gold mines for years eventually the population growth will spread the world money supply thin
 
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Be China, build way too many of every factory and subsidize them.
I would like to know how that would crash the world economy because it would sap all the resources if so that would still keep china from collapsing if not is it because of over production?
 

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I would like to know how that would crash the world economy because it would sap all the resources if so that would still keep china from collapsing if not is it because of over production?
I'm guessing prices will collapse due to overproduction.
 

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Be China, build way too many of every factory and subsidize them.
To do that would I need to be westernised at the start or just worry on making money and having a planned economy when I do become westernised.
 

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I would say the occupying Gold mines is more reliable because it will without a doubt crash the world economy gold mines are the only way money is created if they are occupied they aren't creating money and if you do that for 10 years the world population growth starts to spread the money thin but you would have to stay at war for that long and basically have to occupy all the major world powers gold mines.
 
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Just occupy the Great Powers 100% in a war and never accept peace. That will kill their RGOs and factories. If you occupy their colonial empires, that should stop the influx of resources everyone needs.

This will also cause all of those POPs to get zero income and zero goods, so be prepared to see them rise up in revolt once you accept peace.
 
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Just occupy the Great Powers 100% in a war and never accept peace. That will kill their RGOs and factories. If you occupy their colonial empires, that should stop the influx of resources everyone needs.

This will also cause all of those POPs to get zero income and zero goods, so be prepared to see them rise up in revolt once you accept peace.
Well that will only cause the world powers to fail the Secondary powers will still rise up but by limiting the money supply you affect everyone's economy directly.
 

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Well that will only cause the world powers to fail the Secondary powers will still rise up but by limiting the money supply you affect everyone's economy directly.

It takes too long.

You want to see the world burn? Occupy the Great Powers. See how long the economy runs with half the world's coal, grain, silk, timber, and sulfur out of circulation. And with their industries out of commission, there will be a shortage not only of manufactured goods, but of goods required to manufacture other items.

Sure, the other powers will climb to the top. But if you are at war with all of the Great Powers of the world, you should be able to occupy some of the better secondary powers (since they should be allied to the Great Powers).

The only way my approach doesn't work is if you own so much of the planet that you can substitute your industry and resources for every other industrialized nation.
 
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It takes too long.

You want to see the world burn? Occupy the Great Powers. See how long the economy runs with half the world's coal, grain, silk, timber, and sulfur out of circulation. And with their industries out of commission, there will be a shortage not only of manufactured goods, but of goods required to manufacture other items.

Sure, the other powers will climb to the top. But if you are at war with all of the Great Powers of the world, you should be able to occupy some of the better secondary powers (since they should be allied to the Great Powers).

The only way my approach doesn't work is if you own so much of the planet that you can substitute your industry and resources for every other industrialized nation.
Well my point is that once the war ended the world economy will eventually stabilize if you occupy the gold mines that's years where almost no money is being generated you cant make up time in this game and since population growth in this game is exponential it will only get worse as time goes on I feel its more permanent damage to the world economy.
 
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Well my point is that once the war ended the world economy will eventually stabilize if you occupy the gold mines that's years where almost no money is being generated you cant make up time in this game and since population growth in this game is exponential it will only get worse as time goes on I feel its more permanent damage to the world economy.

With the POPs angry enough from your occupation, they will continue to occupy their own provinces in revolution long after you are gone. It's one reason I don't try to drag out Great Wars any longer than I have to in a regular game; I can't export goods to my former enemies if the proletariat have occupied 75% of their country. It's even worse when Britain or China gets locked in a semi-permanent revolt cycle; there may be millions of POPs that hold no jobs for years.

And when revolutions overthrow governments (especially Britain), spheres of influence disappear, throwing the older colonial empires int chaos.
 
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True but wont the constant revoltuions ensure there militancy will eventually drop to zero and they will stabilize?
 

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Just occupy the Great Powers 100% in a war and never accept peace. That will kill their RGOs and factories. If you occupy their colonial empires, that should stop the influx of resources everyone needs.

This will also cause all of those POPs to get zero income and zero goods, so be prepared to see them rise up in revolt once you accept peace.

Well my point is that once the war ended the world economy will eventually stabilize if you occupy the gold mines that's years where almost no money is being generated you cant make up time in this game and since population growth in this game is exponential it will only get worse as time goes on I feel its more permanent damage to the world economy.

You both make great points, for a quick and non permanent solution to create a crash occupying the Great Powers works, and the effects just get worse the more Great Powers are occupied. Occupying gold mines could be a great way to go out with a bang if you become a large nation capable of going to war with so many countries for 10 years straight.
 

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As I understand it, if you are GP nr 1 and make China your sphereling they'll move ahead in the purchase queue and cause shortages and general economic chaos. Unless that was fixed, that is.
 

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As I understand it, if you are GP nr 1 and make China your sphereling they'll move ahead in the purchase queue and cause shortages and general economic chaos. Unless that was fixed, that is.
Yah but you have to wargoal cb sphere them which is a little annoying considering the possible millions of Chinese solider pops gone.
 

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You mean the millions of dead is a problem? Because the war shouldn't be much of a problem in terms of winning.
Just the battles lasting months and months of swapping armies in and out the war is easy to win just long.....
 

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True but wont the constant revoltuions ensure there militancy will eventually drop to zero and they will stabilize?

Only if 100% of POPs radicalize the same way. ;)

I've seen Russia flip flop back and forth between Communism and monarchy a couple of times.
When the Communists take over, the conservatives/reactionaries radicalize further. When the monarchists take over, the Communists radicalize further.

It will stabilize eventually on a long enough time line, but by then the game will be over.