How to convert colony into a state?

[Biges]

How to convert a colony into state?

Hi!

Any tips/tricks how to convert a colony into state? I know it requires 1 % of population to be bureaucrats (primary/accepted I suppose). But how to get them there? If there is already some primary/accepted population, I can put bur NF there, but if there is not a suitable population? Immigration NF does nothing :-/

Thanks

 

[Sturmwaffles]

To be honest, I've never had a problem with this. I never do NF it, however it usually accumulates bureaucrats for me in less than 2 years post-colonizing; and I've done this to most of Africa.

 

[General_Smith]

To be honest, I've never had a problem with this. I never do NF it, however it usually accumulates bureaucrats for me in less than 2 years post-colonizing; and I've done this to most of Africa.

Yeah. Due to the issue with massive migration from European states to colonies, I have never had a problem converting a colony into a state. That is especially true later in the game.

 

[Biges]

Hm. Not for me. I play Netherlands and have colonies in Asia as well as in Africa (all over), no migration so far. Actually I experience migration from my Asian state back to the home country!
Maybe it is the newest AHD patch? Or I simply have to be patient?

 

[the_Hussar]

I've run into the same problem. I put a NF on immigration, and then I watch for 3 months a state ... and there is no immigration. There are births ... but no one immigrates to those colonies.

So I wonder .... as well...

 

[kunadam]

In my limited experience new colonies gather the required b*crats easily, but conquered uncivs do not gather much population from your culture, so no statehood for them.

 

[calvinhobbeslik]

In my limited experience new colonies gather the required b*crats easily, but conquered uncivs do not gather much population from your culture, so no statehood for them.

Especially states with large populations(China). Although I was able to make 1 Chinese region a state the day I conquered it; it somehow had 4% British people, even though I thought uncivs don't get immigration.

 

[GAGA Extrem]

It seems colonial migration was a bit overnerfed.

Currently I have not managed to turn any african colonies into states. I have no colonial migration, no assimilation and if I promote beaurocrats I end up with 5% from state pop, but only 0.05% with my nationality.
So unless you have a favorable pop setup: Don't even try.

 

[Biges]

The funny thing is that I actually managed to make one colony into state in the Dutch Indies. There is one uncolonized province, when I colonized, by some stroke of luck, many Dutch colonists came there, some of them bure. The rest I achieved by the bure NF. And voilà - a state! Already got new factory there. And there is a nationality (don't remember which one) in the state which does not consider it to be their home territory, so they convert to Dutch rather quickly. (And migrating to Netherlands, probably to get work in better paying factories.)

 

[Secret Master]

Part of the problem, I think, is that if there are no jobs available in the colony, there's no reason for anyone to move there. That's why it's harder to grant statehood to parts of the Dutch empire, China, conquered Japan, and so on. The population density in Africa is really low, so people flock to those colonies.

 

[the_Hussar]

I wish I had people flocking to the African colonies ... but even with the NF immigration, I get zero (0). That's why I'm perplexed too.

 

[Secret Master]

I wish I had people flocking to the African colonies ... but even with the NF immigration, I get zero (0). That's why I'm perplexed too.

Weird, I was converting African colonies into states consistently in my last game. I was the Ottomans and had all the education/colonial migration techs.