how to beat the golden horde?

[Generalmotors]

scorched earth did not work.

they wont make peace. when will they accept peace?


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the image isnt clear. they have more armies, I cant beat them.
what can i do?

le. I made peace with them, paying tribute. will this work?

 

[Dauth]

If you're small enough when you pay tribute then you won't have to spend a lot. Then once you've secured that border (which is what tribute will do) then you can tehc up/expand into other areas before declaring war and driving them back.

 

[PanzerCorps]

I think most people just keep on paying tribute until they're strong enough to fight them. Couldn't know though, never played near a horde

 

[DABegley]

As a small neighbor to a horde you have only one viable strategy, surrender early and often. You can't beat them early even as a good sized country like Lithuania/Poland, let alone a small one like Wallachia. They have more troops than you by a factor of 5-10, better troops than you, tons of manpower and don't need a CB to declare war. You can't play scorched earth, you don't have enough turf. You don't have a straights to hide behind, I have done this with Byzantium quite often. Dauth is correct, try to get a cheap tribute as a small country and keep paying it until you get big enough to beat them straight up and this could take a hundred years. As an example a Byzantium with most of Greece and Asia Minor will still get swatted by the GH. However paying tribute gives you a secure border (as Dauth said) and means that your neighbors will be getting attacked by the GH opening up some good vulture opportunities if your careful. You also need to be careful not get too eager to jump on the horde when it is locked in battle with a major power like the Ottomans or Poles. All their troops could be occupied for now but if you declare they will most likely make peace with the foe beating them and 50,000 troop stacks will be on your front very soon. Even if their troops have been destroyed by someone they can replace them quickly. You really need to be about Hungary's size or bigger to fight them to a draw let alone win. The plus side is that when you finally win a war with them you can get a ton of high value southern Russian provinces with no infamy cost by colonizing them. You can colonize all the way to China and even grab most of Persia from the Timurids that way if you play your cards right. If you survive the early blitz the late rewards can be massive.

 

[Generalmotors]

thank you.


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it is a mess. Venice...

I played this game for a while, and still, I have no idea what to do. In order to finish it. Before the infamous threshold. Should i go east? West? Both? South, in Afrika? East, towards India? North, towards Germany? For now, I cant go anywhere, I just wonder...
Will the inflation kill me? Before the enemies do?

 

[Dauth]

With that much BB you're likely to have to spend 15 years killing revolts and stabilising your nation. I'd concentrate on getting all of Greece/Turkey under your command but that can be a longer term goal. Perhaps when you're properly stable you can have a tilt at disbanding the HRE.

 

[DABegley]

Dauth is once again correct, that is a ton of infamy and with those missionaries operating you are going to have rebellions galore. I would try and end your wars with Tunis and the Mamelukes. There is no profit in the war with Tunis, she will use her navy to invade everywhere and if Tunis is involved Algeria is probably also in the war-pack and she is a royal pain. End that war even if you have to throw some cash at her. End the war with the Mamlukes as well, your infamy is way too high to eat any more provinces. You are a few provinces up in the fight so you can get some cash out of it. That leaves you free to suppress rebellions and colonize Timurid provinces. Colonists count as 200 when used on horde provinces you occupy. Your 5 colonists mean 1 free province, no infamy gained or peace settlement required. You could slowly munch the two Timi provinces next to you while you suppress rebellions. That will work on Qara as well if you can beat her. Then when your infamy has dropped enough you can move on.

Venice is the next target for sure but before you declare make sure you have enough troops on both sides of the straights to prosecute the war because Venice will block the straights immediately and invade your coastal provinces. Occupy all her Greek provinces, you need access from Byzantium to get to Morea, and wait for her WE to climb and you will get a good settlement pretty quick. The goal is to join up your separated provinces so you can move troops back and forth.

You could grab the four separated province country, is that Serbia, first then move on to Venice but Venice might jump in and you have to fight her without any CB infamy reduction.

Good luck.

 

[Generalmotors]

Yes, thanks. That is Aragon holding land in Turkey.

 

[sebas379]

Looks to me like you started playing the game the same way I did. Very aggressive early on. That's probably not the greatest idea. Take it a bit slower, you have 400 years to form your uber empire.
Try to get proper casus belli against countries you want to attack. Holy War really works nicely on muslim states in your case, but for some of the nations around you, consider the Royal Marriage->claim throne->personal union route. It gives much less infamy and thus revolts.
Also, if I attack nation X with a good casus belli to take land from them, and nation Y jumps into the war as an ally of X, and I would like to take them too, I often vassalise nation Y. That only costs 4 infamy, which is the same price as taking 1 province from them. Then, after 10 years and if you bribe relations high enough, you can annex them peacefully for only 1 infamy a province.
It's all about infamy management.

And don't rush it, taking this much land in 30 years, imo, is a bit too agressive.

 

[Generalmotors]

It seems that once I start these wars I cannot stop them. I mean, I can stop them, but I am afraid I will lose the momentum.

 

[Dauth]

If you start getting badboy wars you'll soon know about it. Especially if you're over the 125% of badboy limit, at which point all sorts of nasty things start happening. These include huge stacks of rebels, stability loss, advisers leaving, loss of prestige or loss of merchants.

 

[alexnothome]

Spies are a good start. Even as a small nation you do not want to face the horde head on so spies to disable their nation from the rear.
Second, should declare war against the horde in conjunction with a big nation or multiple nations that has entered a war against the horde.
Third, since you not crazy to face the horde head on (I hope) you should have military access and walk around their army to their territory and loot by just going city to city. This will disturb their monthly income to support their military. Also, it can bait a few of their units out of your nation. It's better to use mercernaries to loot and keep your main force in another nation that can support your military's supply limit. If not getting much challenge from their military then just siege provinces that are fast to exit but slow for them to reach. You might lose 1 or 2 provinces but you can regain them later. Your bigger worries is actually Ottomans, Poland and HRE States.