How playable are Red or Brown governments in 1.9 WITHOUT LaR?

[grommile]

Question as topic:

How playable are Red or Brown governments in 1.9 without the La Résistance DLC (i.e. no Intelligence Agency), and what's the recommended approach for e.g. the USSR compared to 1.8?

 

[Mousetick]

I don't know what is a Brown government. Googling it brings up many results about the former UK Prime Minister's government.

As Soviet Union, the game plays roughly the same without La Resistance as 1.8. The main difference is you need to set up a good garrison template for suppression in your occupied territories. The default one is bad. Soviet Union has the advantage of starting in 1936 with Military Police level 1 already researched, which is useful for garrison templates. You can also set more or less harsh occupation laws, though as Soviet Union you don't really need any extra resources, factories or manpower. I don't quite remember but I think in my last game I kept Civilian Oversight, which is the default, everywhere.

There are several threads in this forum already discussing garrison template compositions, so I won't repeat them. The latest one is:

Garrison templates in 1.9.3

The suppression values of self-propelled variants have been about cut in half in patch 1.9.3: https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Land_units#Unit_types How do you think does that change optimal garrison templates with and without LaR? I'm still very...

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You can ignore references to Armored Cars, since they're only available in LaR.

 

[grommile]

I don't know what is a Brown government.

Brown is the colour used by the game for the Fascist ideology.

 

[Watplr]

It's basically the same as before, but you'll need to dedicate some army experience to making good garrisons (Use horses since there won't be any armored cars.) Then you'll need to spare some equipment for them.

Also, I generally find that keeping resisting states on civilian government works just fine as long as they aren't resisting your rule too much. Building up compliance helps a lot in the long run, and setting the cruelty any higher will take up more manpower and equipment than usual.

 

[blahmaster6k]

Brown is the colour used by the game for the Fascist ideology.

You might want to make your title just say "communist and fascist" instead if you want real responses. I honestly clicked this thread because I had no idea what the title meant and was curious.

 

[Anaraxes]

"Red" is a common appellation for Communist (not least because of the Soviet flag), and the Nazis were also known as "brownshirts" thanks to the early SA uniform.

 

[grommile]

You might want to make your title just say "communist and fascist" instead if you want real responses. I honestly clicked this thread because I had no idea what the title meant and was curious.

You posted this after I received real responses, y'know.

 

[Iskulya]

This is a *really* weird question to ask. What possessed you to think that there was any difference to start with? La Resistance did not introduce differences based on ideology beyond a few unique occupation policies which are mostly negligible and can be ignored.

I've been playing since 1.3 and as far as I can tell playing the Soviet Union is exactly the same as it's always been. Stop Barbarossa cold and then walk to Berlin. Fin. Intelligence in singleplayer just adds a new layer of interactivity and a way to get additional bonuses, but can be ignored entirely without consequence.