How often do you see Reformed HRE?

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One of the biggest problems is that only protestant or catholic can be official faiths of the HRE. When the emperor loses the religious war Anglican, Reformed or Hussite nations should also be allowed to be electors or emperor


I think reformation diplomacy should also work for Hussite nations.

The modifier in Militarize Religious Icons shouldn't be the reduction of shock damage received? Decrease in shock damage means the nation does less damage
Good point regarding the Anglican stuff. We will keep this in mind.


Quoted from this week's DD thread.

Actually, there is a already way to make Reformed HRE since the incident exists for it. Check 'religious_leagues.2' event in ReligiousLegues.txt and Incident_ReformedDissension.txt

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At the first look, ctrl+c and ctrl+v ing this event to Hussite and Anglicanism seems like an easy solution.

The problem is, that this incident is very rare, and hard to achieve. For this incident to fire, 52.4% of HRE land needs to be reformed. Which are a serious task and you need to constantly declare war with a help of Cologne Cathedral. If you're playing the game lightheartedly, you're not going to see it even if you're trying.

It would be much harder for Anglicanism and Hussite to achieve it since its religious center is lower (0~1) than Refromed's (3)

However, the above statement is only my claim and I want to check it along with my friend... and I found out that none of them actually achieved it besides me. Players going for efficiency don't play Reformed, and flavor guys didn't know it existed.

So, I want to know how many of you saw this event and feels about the difficulty. The question is,
1. Have you seen this event?
2. If you saw it, do you think its difficulty is acceptable? (Somewhere between hard achievements and very hard achievements is correct difficulty IMO)
3. If you saw it, do you think you can achieve the Hussite or Anglicanism Empire when the condition is the same?

The best way to achieve this is by adding lots of land to the HRE... But I feel this way breaks the flavor immersion.
 
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The event is really rare because there needs to be more reformed land in the HRE not just than any other religion, but than all of them combined. And that for the last religion to spawn. And that is after the Protestant League has to have fired in the first place, and won the war.
 
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Honestly, if yorue the Emperor and skilled enough to keep being Emperor, you should be given a clear and visible path of flipping the HRE to your religion.

"Catholic or protestant only, and protestants first need to loose emperorship" is a 10+ years old mentality when a nation having a decision for +1 missionary strength was considered as "this nation has flavor"
 
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I tried to make it happen in my Burg game when the patch came out that enabled it. Converted everyone except the emperor and one elector and some minors in the HRE. Then won the protestant's war for them. It never happened. I assume it was bugged. It may still be.

It should be changed so that all protestants can be emperor if we win. Rather than just Lutheranism.
 
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Honestly, if yorue the Emperor and skilled enough to keep being Emperor, you should be given a clear and visible path of flipping the HRE to your religion.

"Catholic or protestant only, and protestants first need to loose emperorship" is a 10+ years old mentality when a nation having a decision for +1 missionary strength was considered as "this nation has flavor"
This could even lead to some really interesting alt-hist scenarioes where the Catholic League is effectively the "rebels", fighting against a perceived or real oppression of their belief in the face of heresy, much like the Protestants did in our timeline. It should probably have some incident related to the Papacy if the HRE goes Protestant, as for all their disagreements, the HREmperor still (in theory) derived their authority as successors to Rome from the Pope.