How "Moddable" will it be / should it be?

[unmerged(26876)]

O.K.

There are a lot of threads here where people provide their own ideas on how to model things and how "accurate" and "realistic" HoI 2 should be.

My questions are these:
How Moddable will it be?
How Moddable should it be?
What would players / modders like to be able to mod?

In HoI even I can mod leaders and leader traits
Being moddable would make a lot of arguments here (in the forum) irrelivant?

Also - will it be possible to transfer / mod HoI 1 files (like leader files for example) to make them compatable with HoI 2?

 

[nachinus]

I guess it wont differ a lot from the rest of Paradox games in this aspect... at least i hope so.

 

[Shadow Knight]

Yeah your going to be able to mod quite a bit, much like other Paradox games, but there are still going to be some hard coded stuff.

Hopefully they don't have stupid hard coded stuff that could be better modeled by AI only events.

 

[unmerged(15623)]

I guess it wont differ a lot from the rest of Paradox games in this aspect... at least i hope so.

I see no reason why it would.

 

[unmerged(26876)]

What about being able to Mod the Province Names for example?
(obviously you couldn't mod the provice boundries - because that would make different peoples versions incompatible)

If Province Names were in a text or excel file you could change them to your local preference?

That's what I'm asking.

 

[unmerged(15623)]

What about being able to Mod the Province Names for example?
(obviously you couldn't mod the provice boundries - because that would make different peoples versions incompatible)

If Province Names were in a text or excel file you could change them to your local preference?

I belive that the province names have been moddable in previous Paradox titles. Of course, you couldn't change the names that appeared on the actual map, so the alteration was only seen in popups, province info screens and such.

(Edit) The reason why, say, province boundaries can't be modded or changed after the release is not incomability problems, but the fact that even the smallest change would require a compleatly redone map. And the map is hundreads of megabytes in size.

 

[J.J.E.]

Of course HoI2 should (and I'm sure it will) be just as moddable as all other Paradox games. Mods make us play EUII and HoI much more than we would if there were only vanilla versions available. Paradox knows that so...

 

[Maximilian I]

nah... I´m for moving all files into some obscure format nobody can read.

j/k

 

[unmerged(14683)]

What about being able to Mod the Province Names for example?
(obviously you couldn't mod the provice boundries - because that would make different peoples versions incompatible)

If Province Names were in a text or excel file you could change them to your local preference?

That's what I'm asking.

Province names in pop-ups (like "We are attacked in XYZ") are moddable, the ones on the map are not.

I don't think this will be changed in HoI2.

Answering original question - except from traditionally "modder friendly" enviroment, I'm especially happy from one thing - since Victoria release there is a possibility to add pictures to the event pop-ups, so I'm 100% sure it will be possible in HoI2 as well!

Imagine the possibilities - every event with proper picture! Rheinland - picture. Munich - picture. Rib-Molotov Pact - picture...

 

[Shadow Knight]

Province names in pop-ups (like "We are attacked in XYZ") are moddable, the ones on the map are not.

I don't think this will be changed in HoI2.

Answering original question - except from traditionally "modder friendly" enviroment, I'm especially happy from one thing - since Victoria release there is a possibility to add pictures to the event pop-ups, so I'm 100% sure it will be possible in HoI2 as well!

Imagine the possibilities - every event with proper picture! Rheinland - picture. Munich - picture. Rib-Molotov Pact - picture...

Yeah I didn't even bother posting a thread asking for it because I just assumed that since it was in VIC it would be in HOI2 also...

 

[cmstea0]

Imagine the possibilities - every event with proper picture! Rheinland - picture. Munich - picture. Rib-Molotov Pact - picture...

i hope that for the Fall of France event they show the famous picture of that old man crying.

but they'll prolly show the march under the Arc d'Triumphe... i like that one too.



i know i'm mean...

 

[J.J.E.]

i hope that for the Fall of France event they show the famous picture of that old man crying.

but they'll prolly show the march under the Arc d'Triumphe... i like that one too.



i know i'm mean...

The train car in Compiegne is also cool...

 

[unmerged(10945)]

nah... I´m for moving all files into some obscure format nobody can read.

j/k

It really doesn't matter either way, because by the second or third patch someone will make a user-made event creator that can decipher the most arcane of scripting languages into something even an idiot like me can use.

 

[Maximilian I]

It really doesn't matter either way, because by the second or third patch someone will make a user-made event creator that can decipher the most arcane of scripting languages into something even an idiot like me can use.

ha! we´re using a modified enigma code for province ids! try to break it!

 

[Culise]

Why not COBOL?

 

[Slargos]

The more complex it gets, the more of a bitch it will be to mod for the users who can't be arsed to learn the system by heart.

Case in point: the CK event system. Yes, it's very interesting, but I have a feeling it's going to be a bother to code events without thoroughly going through it unlike in EU2 when coding events was relatively simple.

 

[MegaPIMP]

or SHODAN?

"Are you trying to mod me insect? i'll dispatch my mini killer Androids I made out of old beer cans to kill you!"

-Ultimate Pirate protection.


I do wonder however, how much harm does this open moding do? Well maybe not "harm" but it must put some kind of limitation on the programmers, right?

 

[J.J.E.]

or SHODAN?

"Are you trying to mod me insect? i'll dispatch my mini killer Androids I made out of old beer cans to kill you!"

-Ultimate Pirate protection.


I do wonder however, how much harm does this open moding do? Well maybe not "harm" but it must put some kind of limitation on the programmers, right?

Would you rather be without CORE or AGC for example?

 

[unmerged(26876)]

ha! we´re using a modified enigma code for province ids! try to break it!

So my idea of an enigma machine for the prize draw wasn't so silly after all then?