How many is too many for general bonuses?

[Vampiresbane]

I was originally going to play Oda and pick Offensive as one of my Idea groups.

Put together I would collectively have:
+2 Shock
+2 Fire

But aren't leader stats capped at 6? Should I pick either Oda or Offensive and not both?

For ease of reference:
Oda Ideas 5 & 10
Offensive Ideas 1 & 3

 

[Jorlaan]

The stats a leader can start with is capped at 6, but I've never heard that they cannot be boosted beyond that. In fact I've always assumed they could.

 

[Vetgirig]

0+2 = 2

As long as its below +6 you have no problem. Rather you want it to be as high as possible.

 

[Zwirbaum]

I was originally going to play Oda and pick Offensive as one of my Idea groups.

Put together I would collectively have:
+2 Shock
+2 Fire

But aren't leader stats capped at 6? Should I pick either Oda or Offensive and not both?

For ease of reference:
Oda Ideas 5 & 10
Offensive Ideas 1 & 3

When you would roll with bonus over 6 in certain stat, it 'spills over' and is rolled again on other stats. So with +2 Shock and +2 Fire you never waste those pips - they are more likely to end up in maneuver and siege in the end if both shock and fire are 6.

 

[Vampiresbane]

When you would roll with bonus over 6 in certain stat, it 'spills over' and is rolled again on other stats. So with +2 Shock and +2 Fire you never waste those pips - they are more likely to end up in maneuver and siege in the end if both shock and fire are 6.

It's information like this as to why I post in these forums. That's extremely useful information to know. Didn't know stats spill over if they hit 6's in any area. Oda/Offensive is a great combo in that case.

 

[bbqftw]

Maneuver ain't bad in this turtle speed patch

 

[Less2]

Have an Oda game where I went Offensive. At 100% professionalism I have in sum +2 shock/+2 fire/+1 siege/+40% siege ability. It's a bit maddeningly powerful, I roll enough generals that I can afford to cull anyone below 2 siege and forts just fall ridiculously fast.

 

[Zwirbaum]

Maneuver ain't bad in this turtle speed patch

I liked maneuver always, now with reduced movement it is even nicer.
(Faster reinforce speed, ability to force river/strait/landing penalty, lowering weight of troops, higher ability to choose battles you want to engage and avoid the ones you don't want) etc.

 

[Dunya]

It's information like this as to why I post in these forums. That's extremely useful information to know. Didn't know stats spill over if they hit 6's in any area. Oda/Offensive is a great combo in that case.

You have the full explanation on the wiki:
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Military_leader#Ideas_that_improve_leaders.27_abilities

Check under "Formulas for point distribution". It's slightly outdated since Craddle of Civilization since they increased the impact of army tradition (worse generals at low, better generals at high, i think. Either that or higher randomness). Regardles, 1 or 2 numbers off but it mostly remains the same