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So far, I've seen only the Texas War of Independence and American Civil War (and maybe Mexican-American War). And we've been told that most wars can no longer be triggered at a fixed time. But I'm just wondering how many historical wars can break out in Vic2, either triggered by some events or some mechanics? I haven't seen the Opium Wars, Crimean War, Prussian-Danish War, Austro-Prussian War, Sino-French War, and I guess the First Sino-Japanese War won't break out, since in Singleton Mosby's Japan AAR China remained indifferent upon Japanese invasion of Korea. So how many historical wars are included in the game, or these wars are not going to happen at all?
 

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Wars can be trigger at a specific date, but they are not ;) Most wars will only break out if the nations in question want to declare them. E.g. a Prussian-Danish war and a Franco-Prussian war are pretty much vital if Prussia wants to become Germany. An Austro-Prussian war isn't quite vital as technically you can take all the SG minors into your SoI peacefully, but it's fairly likely. There are some events and decisions that can prompt your a bit, but there's no "Hey it's <date>, time for <historical war>!" type events.
 

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Well, Mosby's struggeling with China right now ;)
And in one of the AARs I saw that China had been completely annexed by Britain..
Well, human players can always play historically. And I saw a Russian occupation of half of China in an AAR, but in which AAR did UK do this?

None, I hope.
I'll miss Crimean War.
 

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Well, the First World War must be in the game? I hope so, because they haven't made a game like Hearts of Iron that handles the years around the first world war, so I hope it would be included in Victoria 2! :rolleyes:
 

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Well, the First World War must be in the game? I hope so, because they haven't made a game like Hearts of Iron that handles the years around the first world war, so I hope it would be included in Victoria 2! :rolleyes:

A game that attempted to faithfully duplicate WWI would be mind-numbingly boring. Any war where the primary strategy on both sides was "keep launching massive attacks because they'll run out of manpower first" would not be entertaining or even exciting as a player.

In any case, Vicky++ includes the concept of Great Wars to allow weakening GPs to regain prestige and dominance, but from what we've heard the Great War itself isn't in.
 

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There is no WW1 because the game will almost never wind up with the same geopolitical situation, and artificially making the war happen makes no sense. For example, if Prussia never forms Germany, obviously there could not be a WW1 as we know it. Wars between great powers can become pseudo-WW1s, but the actual WW1 obviously can't be included as a historical war.
 

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There is no WW1 because the game will almost never wind up with the same geopolitical situation, and artificially making the war happen makes no sense. For example, if Prussia never forms Germany, obviously there could not be a WW1 as we know it. Wars between great powers can become pseudo-WW1s, but the actual WW1 obviously can't be included as a historical war.
Yeah.

And I hope in the future expansion we will have a WWI Scenario starting from the Second Moroccan Crisis of 1911.:)
 

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Well, I think it should be included as atleast a scenario in the game... But, well, great wars will be in the game, so one of those could actually be "first world war". :rolleyes:
 

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