How Long Usually for a Basic Seige

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For some reason it usually takes me 1-2 years for even a basic seige, do they usually happen quicker when you have more troops?

And is it worth the cost to besiege venice in the Grand Campaign?

 

[Barkdreg]

With enough infantry and cannons sieges last shorter.
You can allways assault.

 

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do cavalry affect it at all?

 

[Barkdreg]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
do cavalry affect it at all?

they count towards minimum troops needed to siege the fortress and they take cassualties in an assault but cause none

 

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Cavalry in a siege is a waste of expensive troops... just plunk in a few thousand (or tenthousand if the fortress is big) of infantry, add a bunch of cannons, and assault/siege...

 

[RobN]

Cannons. Get yourself some cannons.

 

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Originally posted by RobN
Cannons. Get yourself some cannons.

Even better, get yourself lots of cannons... hundreds of them

 

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Okay, thank you, the cannons are working well against Bohemia and the Platinate

 

[Barkdreg]

And if the cannond don't work, just hit them with wave after wave of drafted peasents.... I mean soldiers.

ASSAULT that button has a use.

 

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Yes this button do the work.

 

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So, the assault button will decrease their readiness even if you don't take the city with it?

 

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No, but if you assault, they will probably lose men in their garisson. If their garisson is at 0 men, the city is yours. But that might require a few successive assaults.

 

[Barkdreg]

You also win if the defenders morale reaches zero during an assaullt.

 

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And another small note:
If you are assaulting, and your morale is about halfway, for example, if you walk in another load of troops with higher morale, you get a morale boost to your assaulting troops. Could make the difference

 

[Barkdreg]

Having a higher landtech, lots of infantry and a decent leader is also helpful.

 

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What ive always wondered, does a siege rating on your leader make a difference when assaulting?

 

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I find the best thing for wars of conquest, sieges, etc. is a good mix of infantry and cannons... lots of both. I tend to downplay cavalry, and a single army group of mine will rarely have more than 5,000 cavalry, if even that much. Unless, of course, I'm playing a country that gets ultracheap cavalry.

 

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Originally posted by Silent Eagle
What ive always wondered, does a siege rating on your leader make a difference when assaulting?

No. In assualts it's the chock-value that matters. When your army is just sitting down and smoking, that's when siege value matters.

 

[Chas]

It's all in one of the FAQ's, but one of the most useful EU formulas is for the cannons required for a seige:
3 x the level of the fortress.
So a 'Small' Level 2 fortress requires 60 cannons. I usually send in more than 60, up to 70 say, to allow for attrition, which is small for cannons, but taking in 60 and losing one to 59 lengthens the seige a lot.

If you have this nummber of cannons or more, you get level 3 (the number in the left hand circle on the seige display). The higher this number is, the faster the seige goes. The only way of getting it above 3 is to take a leader who has a seige value which is added (so leader seige value of 2, plus say 65 cannons on a Small fortress = level 5)

So far as I know, and in my experience, more than this number of cannons gives no help and just adds to attrition problems.

Level 6 is the biggest fort, so you never need more than 180 cannons for maximum seige strength.

 

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When I create an army with say, 200 cannons, it tells me that I have 40 troops on the main menu- is this a bug?

BTW- thank you for the information.