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Glorious Tengri Empire of Oirat! Been relatively quiet except a few Muscovian interventions when it was still strong. Golden horde/Kazan/Shun are vassals. Just westernized, and am having my sweet peace time to catch up in tech, and i will, since i got a lucky Lux Stella event for a godlike heir called Johan :D
 
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Barely just started a game with England and I'm wondering if I wait for France DoW for their cores or sell to them. When we started at war with them, I usually took the opportunity to wear them out a little before peacing out, now I'm really not sure how to proceed. I'll wait and see.

Change-wise, I loved them all. I'm planning a Frankfurt survival game next.
 

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Playing as milan. have taken bresica back from venice and vassalized ferrara. Pretty typical start, I have allies tuscany, austria, and mantua. going kind of slow because I was a little fearful of what AE would be after the patch. However, it isn't very bad so I'll probably pick up the pace pretty soon. I love the new fort system, sooooo much more realistic than carpet sieging. I have noticed something strangew though. About 1465 Austria, france, their friends and all their mothers steamrolled ottomans, and byzantuim is actually growing. In all my games I have never seen europe crush the ottomans that early in the game.
 

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Started as Brittany. Allied Burgundy, Burgundy (and I) got smacked by Austira because apparently Burgundy does not care about this silly 'HRE' and it's restrictions.

Then the bastards dishonoured a CTA and now I'm France's bitch. Ho hum.
 

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I just finished observing a game. I think many fewer interesting result happened. My over all feeling is that the nations are more static.

The areas where nations were wiped out and you can't predict who would be the powerhouse were, well, the areas that start out need to be resolved. Manchuria, Indonesia, India, Arabia, East Africa, and such. Of course the new world and other colonizable provinces also grant an element of uncertainly.

But Africa is completly boring. Morroco; Tunis; Egypt. Check. Ethiopa made an early run, owning Cairo and Jerusalem for a long time. But by the end of the game, Ethiopia is about back to starting boundries! Perviously, in that type of situation Mamluks would have been erradicated. But now, Egypt is a bit bigger than starting size. Notable for a country that "should have" been wiped out fairly early. This might be an easy example of the development mechanic at work. Mamulks were pounded to a small size early, but Egypt ended up pounding back those neighbors who had expanded throughout the majority of the game. But still, the snapshot comparision of Mamluks in 1444 to Egypt in 1820 is more boring than interesting. The fact that Ethiopia was an early monster has been dismissed.

Mali; Songhai; Kanen Bornu. Check; Check; Check. Boring; Boring; Boring.

Persia formed early, surrounded the Persian Gulf, and then.... was very static for the last 200 or 300 years. (In the pic, don't mistake the eastern half of the green blob. That is Kashmir)

Japan gained footholds in Manchuria and Korea a couple times. In the end, Japan looks like, uh, Japan. They Own Okinawa and Hokkaido, and nothing beyond. This result could not be more boring.

Ming started huge. Ming finished huge. Yawn.

Approaching Europe, we now consider the Ottomans. After a long time they had finally expanded to Europe. Didn't last. Ottomans ; Persia; Egypt triangle is boring. Albania exists. Everybody but the Ottomans owned it at some point in the game, but Albanian nationalists are indeed the most eternal of creations. Bulgaria popped out right around 1800. But guess what? Wallachia is still an independent completely unchanged state. While I am surprised, I also find the static nature almost incredible.

Once you note that Hungary dissappear, the rest of Eastern Europe is not notable. Russia is a player in Caucasus. Russia owns most of Sibera, a few Aleuts islands, Wake and Hawaii. Nice to see he didn't invade China. Interesting to see he has Hawaii -- but that nations colonize islands isn't noteworthy, really. Russia is as Russia is generally expected to be.

Poland is Poland, and Lithuania is Lithuania. Really quite static. Eastern Europa is quite a snooze fest in my book.

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So, that brings us to Europe. Maybe it's notable that Scandanavia kicked Norway out of Scandanavia, but that Scandanavia is very nearly no more and no less than Scandanavia is notably boring.

Great Britian is Great Britain.

Iberia was interesting to watch casually. Portugal ; Spain ; Aragon. I kept expecting Aragon to be wiped out, but whether it was Castile, France, or Naples attacking, Aragon manage to get some land back. So, maybe everything was interesting, but in the end it turns out to be -- how should I say -- almost "static."

Eh, France is France like, but a little less BBB than BBB had usually been expected to be. France is the only one that hasn't lost a colonial nation to indepence. (French Brazil, French La Plata, French Colombia, French Peru, and French Mexico are still his minions.) So, I guess France won South America.

But Brittany? Brittany was annexed by Provence early. Provence was Brittany for a long time. But Provence was elimated, and what the Hell, Brittany is now the somewhat common "extended Brittany". Everything interesting in this session turned out to be temporary.

Italy? Okay, the islands had to be resolved, and Sardinia has Corsica, Sardinia, and the Baleares. Good for them.

But Naples is Naples. What, really? Aragon has Palermo. Sicily never showed his face... nobody ever invade Naples that I saw. So much more static than the usual fate of Naples.

Now, what did happen is that eventually Venice was eliminated. Montferrat is a new nation of course. He annexed Savoy early, and ate most of Venice, but that didn't stick. Eventually Austria held on to some of Venice. I was surprised that late in the game, The Papal State grabbed a bit. So Italy is comprised of Naples, The Papal States, and Montferrat.

So Germany. Well, Bohemia got Burgundy, and, it seems never changed much. There are still three figurative islands of Bohemia. Very static. Silesia. Brandenburg had it rough. Pomerania held. The Hansa has Holstien. Brabant is big. And I'm happy to see Frankfurt is a bit of a monster, since they were the first OPM which I consider playing as a Tall Nation. (But to be clear, I did not play any nation in this observed game.)

But, Austria is the Emporer, always has been. No free cities exist in the HRE. Of course the HRE will never be static. But after considering Bohemia's three islands still exist and Austria's mild expansion into Hungary and Venice, well, maybe things were more static than ever before.

Oh, hmm. I just noticed the Netherlands are gone. I was thinking about complaining that both the Netherlands and Holland existed as colonial powers ... but at the end of the game the lowlands are just the nations of Flanders, Brabant, Gelre, Frise and Frankfurt. Idk. (The Netherlands live on as a OPM in Gabon)

tl;dr: static
 
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ive played 3 euro games so far, brandenburg, sweden, and now milan, and I can sum up my experience with four words. F*** off free cities!

Constant suicidal wars from the blighters. SO IRRITATING!
 
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I started yesterday a GB game and found it reaaaaaally easy to destroy France so now i have 2 third of France but i'm more focused on colonization. But now that coring cost and dip annex are a lot higher i think the decision "Form GB diplomatically" and "Form commonwealth" are OP, at this moment in my game there is an alliance i could not defeat since Austria isn't the emperor had 20k men and i had 0 mp
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And by the way is it me or the max manpower is much more hard to "level up "?

Edit: India and the rest of Asia didn't do a thing during 200 years,Bahmani stayed at his starting pos and all of his neighboors too something got to be fixed
 
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Teutonic Order playthrough for Baltic Crusader achievement.

Things I've Noticed:

Austria has done nothing all game. It's conquered 3 swiss provinces and taken 1 from Baden. It seems to be constantly at war within the HRE helping others defend, and as such, at one point was >3k in debt. This was not of my doing, as Pol/Lith only invaded me once before I started wrecking them and I lost the alliance with Austria and never bothered to get it back.

France has not really blobbed. Seems to be ignoring Italy for reasons...?

No-one has colonized with any gusto. This might be in part because Scotland unified the British Isles (England has Havana & a province next to Kongo left, so they're a dead tag). Spain seems broken for some reason, as is Portugal for reasons I'm not sure why. They have the right ideas to colonize but are not. Most of South America/America/Carribean sits wide open for colonization and besides France in Mexico, and Scotland in the Columbia region of SA, it's pretty bare bones.

Flanders ended up forming the Netherlands. Missing 1 Flemish Province, holds 3 Wallonian and is driving east into Westphalia culture provinces.

Eastern European nations (Moldavia, Poland, Lithuania, Muscovy) seem to be coded to prioritize provincial development over taking Ideas, and as such, I steam rolled them all. I mean, 1700 and Muscovies remnants (in Siberia) has 5 idea groups unlocked (correct), but has only taken 11 Ideas total. Expensive as hell to core/annex things (200+ adm pretty much every province), annexing my Kiev vassal cost me over 1000 dip (just the ruthenian culture provinces w/influence & admin). The other 3 were the same when I purged them of their heretics.

The Hordes were interesting, Crimea at one point had an empire than Spanned from southern Georgia all the way up to Perm, before they made the mistake of taking a massive # of russian provinces (including moscow) and then separatists rose up and shattered them. Aq Quyonlu controls Iraq, Eastern Persia (Khorsan holds the rest), and the Caucauses.

The Ottomans are very passive. They have not made 1 incursion into Hungary or Serbia, or driven the Venetians out of Greek Islands. 1700 and are just striking into Egypt. I... dunno.

Without question, the most fascinating area to watch has been Italy. After they all left the HRE, 4 different Italians have come within 4 or 5 provinces of being able to form Italy (or Kingdom of God). Papal State, Naples, Genoa, & Venice in a constant slug fest for 250 years.

I only took the Pomeranian & Silesian culture provinces in the HRE. I've, fighting my inner bloodlust and conquest desires, have avoided alliances or interacting in any way with the rest of Europe just to see what happens.
 
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Played as Holland and had a few setbacks. Hard to form the Netherlands when Friesland almost always becomes a Free City early on. Eventually took it when Saxe-Lauenburg was Emperor.

Late to the colonial race but managed to take some Caribbean islands and Colombia. Also set up a West African Trade Company next to Kongo (one province had gold and the other slaves).

Overall, it's much easier and funner to form Netherlands now that Burgundy has been modified. I remember last patch where a lot of luck came in to form Netherlands as Gelre. My Netherlands has all Dutch, Walloon, and Flemish provinces (including Calais). I'm only missing Rethel which belongs to France.
 

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Bad. Disappointing.
So, I am Irish 'minor' M-tech 7, have pityful 10 troops (eaten Scotland), zero manpower after an unfortunate Scots rebelion, several loans to have some mercs.
(in the first decade of the game, England DOWed Scots and took only Lothean, then I took the rest of Scotland and Lothean during English-French war

To the point, having 25 troops, England [M-tech 6, over 15k manpower] declares war on me to return its Lothean core—and does not move at all.
Moreover, England gets M-tech 7 in 4 years and still stares at me with 14 troops at its border.
In 5 years: makes peace giving me reparations and money and revoking Lothean core.
Yes, yes, she just stared at me for 5 long years while could easily crush my forces.
Oh, I forgot… It's English Common sense indeed.
 
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I wanted to form Nederlands from Holland. Had few restarts (Ironman) becaues I wanted to hit that sweet spot when everybody hates Burgundy. Managed to grab Antwep and Breda in the liberation war. Then Burgundy succesfully conquerd Liege and Provance holdings in HRE (they where allys with to Brittany that grabed the france ones). Man, that coalition war they caused! All of HRE minors declared on them, at some point they had like 3 punitive wars at the same time. The had to free all PU,s the had at start. I used that to vasalize Flanders while beeing at war with Utreht (anexed them). Now only Free city of Fresiland left for the Netherland forming decision. Next goal is to develop and colonize. Oh, it's 1469 btw :)
 

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Didn't buy the expansion, but trying out France for a bit. Vasssalized Brittany after fabricating some claims.
No problem getting an alliance with Austria. Burgundy took quite some AE in their first war with Austria. B. took quite a lot of land.
Coalition formed, which I joined, attacked B. right away. During the war, their king died. Milan and I shared their lands. So one huge Milan now (also inherits all of B's vassals).
No unrest in their provinces so it seems.
After B was gone, I decided to take on an alliance with Aragon. Got England to release Guyene(?). Now... with the previous patches we could take the warscore quite high to get them release even Wales and such. It's probably in the update notes, but now you get a -1000 penalty if you try to release Wales without it being occupied. (forts needs to be taken out first).
Got G. as my vassal now. Then it was time to beat up Castille pretty badly. Took a lot of his land and feed it to Guyene(?).

Also took some land myself, which takes a lot of Admin to core... I took the canaries, without occupying it. Seems like, as long as there's no fort there, you can take it anyway.

I like the delay for the first idea. Now we can beat up the colonist countries before they start a first colony.

Have to say that it's quite annoying to deal with the super low income. (2 ducats per month...what?)
Due to looting and minimize my forts, now I'm able to hold 3 diplomats. For some reason I also got spammed by message about dying Diplomats I didn't hire in the first place. (Probably diplomats that show up in the hiring screen).

Also Austria getting their hands dirty a lot, losing war after war. But luckily they are still big buddies with Hungary.
 
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Working on my obligatory Qing game. Started as Jianzhou and used Ming to help me unify the Jurchens+Korchin. They rivaled me shortly afterwards, as did Oirat, so I was essentially ally-less since Korea wouldn't join any of my wars. It'll probably be a restart though, since despite having three 0 mil powers rulers in a row, the Ming have kept up in mil tech. They have no manpower but will just roll over me with mercs if I declare for my Manchurian cores. By the time I get anything meaningful from the Oirat they'll have taken mil tech 5. And the new fort system makes dealing with rebels an absolute annoyance, so there's that.

I also did some quick Benin games, which are essentially the same as before, since the developers decided to put the sorely needed missionary strength decision for pagans behind a wall of entirely unnecessary requirements.
 

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Bad. Disappointing.
So, I am Irish 'minor' M-tech 7, have pityful 10 troops (eaten Scotland), zero manpower after an unfortunate Scots rebelion, several loans to have some mercs.
(in the first decade of the game, England DOWed Scots and took only Lothean, then I took the rest of Scotland and Lothean during English-French war

To the point, having 25 troops, England [M-tech 6, over 15k manpower] declares war on me to return its Lothean core—and does not move at all.
Moreover, England gets M-tech 7 in 4 years and still stares at me with 14 troops at its border.
In 5 years: makes peace giving me reparations and money and revoking Lothean core.
Yes, yes, she just stared at me for 5 long years while could easily crush my forces.

exciting times they lived in
 

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Mine game is going well. I'm really enjoying CS so far. Trying a "tall" game.



This is from quite a while ago. I'm currently somewhere in the late 1500's and I've formed Tuscany (I'm using my Florentine Republic mod). Annoyingly, Austria has taken the last province I need to form Italy and they're allied to France :/