How is colonisation going to be handled?

[Herbert West]

This.

Will it be like V1, where some regions were not colonized even in 1936 due to competing nations having competing claim posts, or like EU2/3, with single provinces being colonised, or some "claim sphere" scenario with slowly creeping population for a large territory?

 

[Featauril]

This.

Will it be like V1, where some regions were not colonized even in 1936 due to competing nations having competing claim posts, or like EU2/3, with single provinces being colonised, or some "claim sphere" scenario with slowly creeping population for a large territory?

From the DD on national focus -

"The last thing that National focus is used for is colonisation. You can set a national focus marker in an uncolonised state and start to claim it. The control amount slowly ticks up by a random amount, so just because you are first in a state doesn't mean that someone else might get lucky and beat you. If you want to increase your chances of claiming a state you can send in troops, the presence of troops in a state will increase the amount your claim ticks up by. This might just give you the edge to beat some who already has a placed a claim in front of you. What happens if they too send troops? In this situation countries who are both claiming a colony can fight each other inside the state. This allows Fashoda style skirmishes without needing the whole messy colonial war mechanic. Now you can skirmish with allies and friends for colonies without having to burn all your bridges and go fight a war."

Not sure how it will play out - why woudn't you just send troops all over africa and beat the shit out of everyone and get major claims? Time will tell.

 

[besaccia]

I think that social techs will improve the speed an maximun number of claims, and of course there must be a colonial range based on tech and port size and provinces restrictions based on province's climate and tech levels.

 

[rjf101]

I don't think that colonization in Africa should even be an option before the 1880's (historically the Berlin Conference). For the first 50 years of the game's timeframe, there really wasen't much colonizing except in the Americas and Australia (not expansion of territory even, but just settlers moving on to new lands). The Europeans did have some land in Africa, but most of it was gained before 1836, and most of the rest was gained by traditional warfare (such as Farnce's extension into Algeria in the 1830's), not colonizing virgin land.

What I fear is that the Western powers will be too focused on colonzing Africa before they historically should be, and that things will get way too competitive and confusing after a few decades.

 

[Andrelvis]

I don't think that colonization in Africa should even be an option before the 1880's (historically the Berlin Conference). For the first 50 years of the game's timeframe, there really wasen't much colonizing except in the Americas and Australia (not expansion of territory even, but just settlers moving on to new lands). The Europeans did have some land in Africa, but most of it was gained before 1836, and most of the rest was gained by traditional warfare (such as Farnce's extension into Algeria in the 1830's), not colonizing virgin land.

What I fear is that the Western powers will be too focused on colonzing Africa before they historically should be, and that things will get way too competitive and confusing after a few decades.

It worked well in V1:R, and countries usually didn't do much colonization in Africa until they had the technological ability to do so.

 

[evran]

The Europeans did have some land in Africa, but most of it was gained before 1836, and most of the rest was gained by traditional warfare (such as Farnce's extension into Algeria in the 1830's), not colonizing virgin land..

Because no one lived in Africa before the Europeans came... I liked VIPs way of doing it although.

 

[Alexander Seil]

Stopping early colonization (or, ideally, just making it prohibitvely costly) would amount to having a modifier to influence gain from national focus based on your technology. And the influence gain from troops is naturally controlled by attrition - but hopefully that will come down after you start mass-producing quinine (i.e., reach the right technological stage).

 

[Colon]

Because no one lived in Africa before the Europeans came... I liked VIPs way of doing it although.

In Vic1 people did live in "empty" provinces, you can even see which and how many POPs, but they were just without a state.

 

[Devout]

My understanding is that a nation that wants to colonize needs to commit a national focus "point" to that specific state. So my understanding is that (1) the nation is indeed sacrificing other possibilities (production, railroad, etc) for colonization. (2) the amount of colonization is limited by the number of national focus points which increases as tech/time passes.