How Immortal does Immortality make you?

[wthree]

Hi so...

I've been playing the game a bit now, and my character has the immortality trait. What I'm trying to figure out is exactly how immortal the trait makes him, because he keeps dying around the age of 65 (I reloaded a few times because I thought it strange an immortal would die of natural causes).

But is this in fact, working as intended? Does the immortality trait not actually make you immortal, but just increase your health by a bit?

 

[napoleon_mayo]

In CK2+ the immortal trait actually makes you immortal, in vanilla it just appears to increase your health by 10.

 

[Dragonovith]

The immortal trait has the "immortal = yes" modifier, therefore it makes your ruler immortal for real, it isn't just a health bonus. But if you added the Immortal trait through the ruler designer, it won't work, you have to get it from an event or a console cheat.

 

[General Karthos]

And it specifically says (I just got the trait) it doesn't make you invincible. So you can still be murdered or die in battle, or, I assume, die if you have a BUNCH of simultaneous diseases and get unlucky.

 

[sreckom92]

The immortal trait has the "immortal = yes" modifier, therefore it makes your ruler immortal for real, it isn't just a health bonus. But if you added the Immortal trait through the ruler designer, it won't work, you have to get it from an event or a console cheat.

You sure?
My immortal character died from the Plague. He was also Severely Injured and Stressed.

 

[General Karthos]

In my post above this one, I said that I think you can die if you have a bunch of simultaneous injuries or diseases. Immortal gives you +10.00 health, and you aren't affected by aging, but +10.00 health doesn't mean you're completely immortal if it's cancelled out by a number of negative modifiers. (Severely injured, -2, plague -7, stressed -1 cancels out the +10.)

You're like Lorien from Babylon 5. (Or elves from Tolkien.) You can get injured and die, or get sick and die (though it's harder), but you won't die of old age.

 

[Robert II]

Very. Any other questions?

 

[Forwe]

No, actually, this Immortal trait makes you completely invulnerable to death from disease, old age and poor health. This "+10 health" could have just aswell been removed, it would have still worked the same; you can only be assassinated or killed in battle.

 

[General Karthos]

No, actually, this Immortal trait makes you completely invulnerable to death from disease, old age and poor health. This "+10 health" could have just aswell been removed, it would have still worked the same; you can only be assassinated or killed in battle.

sreckom92 says otherwise.

 

[sreckom92]

you can only be assassinated or killed in battle.

Or die from events.

sreckom92 says otherwise.

Perhaps I made a mistake. I didn't bother to read the cause of death. I assumed it was the Plague, considering how the character had it, and there were no wars to die in at that moment. And definitely no message about assassins appeared.

 

[havenost]

Don't know about the +10 health thing...

But its like how Karthos explained it with the example of the elves from Lord of the Rings... where you can still die from diseases, injuries, assassination, execution, or from war. You just don't die of old age.

Though technically that example is not really correct either since that isn't really how elven immortality works in LotR. Because the elves can't die of old age, plus when they are slain or die of some kind of illness... their soul goes to the Hall of Mandos for a while and then they respawn after a while.

 

[MrParadux]

As far as I can tell the +10 health makes the character just less likely to contract a disease and be cured from it way faster. That is how most diseases work in the event files: the higher your health, the faster you get rid of the sickness

 

[Balkri]

You can still get some of the more generic diseases (my current ruler got Gout after get the immortality, and the physician took one of my eyes to cure it), scurvy, gout, flu, etc. But with 10 extra health just from the trait you can ignore them most of the time.

The interesting thing is that eventually you can get the inmunity to a lot of the epidemic diseases.

You can still die in battle (for now my inmortal 37 martial viking have not got any injury in battle, but it can happen).

And some events can still kill you.
Like: -Berzerker event that insta kill you in middle of a battle; -Event with and "old" wife, something like a "relighting the passion" that have a 50% chance of killing you (the event still count you as and old character aparently); Lots of the hunting associated events; One event related to the council where you have arround 10% chance of dying if you don't ask for help...

And that's what I can remember for now... also be carefull with depresion and stress (the religios focus can help a lot with problems like that)