How I feel after every peace conference

[Draguss]

It's of course a lot better ever since they adopted that mod, but I still wish we had some kind of option to refuse/dispute places we occupy and start an immediate war without having to withdraw first.

 

[The_Meme_Man]

It's of course a lot better ever since they adopted that mod, but I still wish we had some kind of option to refuse/dispute places we occupy and start an immediate war without having to withdraw first.

This would actually be a very fun mechanic, and might help alleviate some of the problems with the current peace deals.

Ok, so it has to be a great war (i.e WWII). The big boys are at the negotiations dividing up the enemy. Rather than taking turns, the majors and people who contributed over a certain amount to the war get first dibs carving up the rewards. There should be limits to what people can claim, which would actually be hard to balance, but it should involve the territory either bordering one's own territory, or having a harbor. People pick what they want, and then map modes display who claimed want.

The peace conference is continuing, and a phase 2 can start where the people who claimed land start negotiating with the other powers diplomatically. AI should be balanced here to be very reasonable about what they exchange and sacrifice towards countries who contributed a lot to the war, especially if they are of the same ideology. AI should be LESS understandable to people of OTHER ideologies. Negotiations keep going, and countries either agree to exchange claims, or one country forfeits their claim on the territory to the other (Britain and Russia claim Denmark, both really want it, but they either negotiate a different territory, or Britain or Russia let go of Denmark to the other). Claims are just any form of peace reward, including territorial concession and liberation. Puppeting or changing government will put a "claim" on every territory the "puppeteer" insists their puppet have (so kinda like territorial concession).

If a territory is unnegociated, it will go who ever is closer, who ever actually occupied the territory, but the other nation who wanted it will have a claim. This is grounds for WWIII. Claims can just as well be a liberation casus belli for a nation, or territorial claim for a puppet/ally. BOOM, the game just got more interesting.

 

[Draguss]

That sounds like a fun idea. Some type of system with simultaneous claims and the ability to negotiate (or start another war) over territories both factions want to occupy would be great.

 

[Regaccio]

The Player-Led Peace Conferences mod is a great workaround until peace deal AI is more sensible.

 

[LostAlone]

This is a good idea, and worthy of a little more explanation.

The only reason that peace conferences matter at all is because you are preparing for the next war. That's the only thing that makes that part of the game interesting or really worth having in the game at all; because what you take and what you give is going to be valuable. There should be some meaning to the peace conference, to getting the top war score so you can hoover up Iran and Iraq and ensure the British Empire shall forever rule the waves. There should be a reason beyond pride and hisoricity to not just sit back and watch the Russians bleed to re-take Germany. It's more fun to do D-Day but screw it, what do you care if all of Europe is communist if the game ends before the cold war?

Suffice to say, yes, we need peace conference to matter.

 

[frolix42]

Ooooh are we memeing this?

How I feel about the aftermath of a HoI4 peace conference...

Spoiler: Meme

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