How feasible will killing all elves be?

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The elves did nothing wrong!!! :p

Lies and propaganda! Clearly you have been taken in by the elven pawn Tolkein and his ilk. The elves and their "elf-shot" inflicted epidemics and disease upon humans across the ages. They also consistently drove people insane, stole children, and hunted men for sport.
 

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Lies and propaganda! Clearly you have been taken in by the elven pawn Tolkein and his ilk. The elves and their "elf-shot" inflicted epidemics and disease upon humans across the ages. They also consistently drove people insane, stole children, and hunted men for sport.
And clearly you are putting all elves into the same basket. There is a difference between light elves (which are "good" and hence will be my enemies) and there are dark elves (which are "evil" and will be my friends, yes I will murder those inferior humans for the sake of fun!)
 

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And clearly you are putting all elves into the same basket. There is a difference between light elves (which are "good" and hence will be my enemies) and there are dark elves (which are "evil" and will be my friends, yes I will murder those inferior humans for the sake of fun!)

You're correct there's a difference. Dark Elves are ugly and evil, and light elves are shiny and evil. The only good elf is a dead elf.
 

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You're correct there's a difference. Dark Elves are ugly and evil, and light elves are shiny and evil. The only good elf is a dead elf.
The trolls are far more uglier but I am sure that dark elves would find humans to be very ugly as well. But where do you even have the evidence that light elves were evil?
 

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The trolls are far more uglier but I am sure that dark elves would find humans to be very ugly as well. But where do you even have the evidence that light elves were evil?

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My interpretation of Búi's journey into Álfheimr is that he was seduced by an evil light elf wench, who then uses the child of the union to topple the man's hard built life. There's other examples if I dig further and consult my recently acquired books of Norse mythology and legends, that's just the first one that I was able to find the actual name and reference for off hand. Depending on perspective any "beautiful" elves are considered to be light elves, and therefore any wrongdoing by elves noted for their beauty must be done by the light elves. The beauty is what makes them dangerous, hence why it's best to have a policy of killing all elves on sight.
 

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Kjalnesingasaga

My interpretation of Búi's journey into Álfheimr is that he was seduced by an evil light elf wench, who then uses the child of the union to topple the man's hard built life. There's other examples if I dig further and consult my recently acquired books of Norse mythology and legends, that's just the first one that I was able to find the actual name and reference for off hand. Depending on perspective any "beautiful" elves are considered to be light elves, and therefore any wrongdoing by elves noted for their beauty must be done by the light elves. The beauty is what makes them dangerous, hence why it's best to have a policy of killing all elves on sight.
Well I wish you luck with that in your games, my games will have other outcomes. To get back to topic I think that you would be able to kill all elves you can find if you wish to. But I don't think you will be able to pull a "final solution" on them like you seem to want.
 

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Well I wish you luck with that in your games, my games will have other outcomes. To get back to topic I think that you would be able to kill all elves you can find if you wish to. But I don't think you will be able to pull a "final solution" on them like you seem to want.

I certainly hope we will be able to. When taking it from a serious game perspective, the best RPG that illustrates the difference is the difference between Fallout 3 (or Skyrim) and Fallout: New Vegas. In New Vegas, all NPCs, regardless of their role in the main quest or any quest, can be brutally murdered and left rotting in the wasteland. In Fallout 3 (and Skyrim), some are always marked as essential and cannot be killed. New Vegas in this example provides with more true RPG freedom and ability, as you are quite literally still able to do anything while still being able to complete the game. I sincerely hope that burning towns and villages will be an option in Runemaster, allowing us to undertake full elimination of any chosen demographic.
 

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One elf makes a wee short joke thousands of years ago and this is what we get.

Somewhere in the heavens Odin is saying, "If I have to stop this wagon..."
 

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So advocacy of a genocide feature is now alright on Paradox forum as long as the race in question is fictional?!:wacko:

If it is, then I'll proceed with what I want to say.
 

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So advocacy of a genocide feature is now alright on Paradox forum as long as the race in question is fictional?!:wacko:

If it is, then I'll proceed with what I want to say.

You don't harm any real people with this, do you? I'll allow it for now, but if it goes too south we'll have to close the thread. Keep it civil and this thread will stay open :)
 

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You don't harm any real people with this, do you? I'll allow it for now, but if it goes too south we'll have to close the thread. Keep it civil and this thread will stay open :)
Alright then. Let's gas the elves!:laugh:

Well I wish you luck with that in your games, my games will have other outcomes. To get back to topic I think that you would be able to kill all elves you can find if you wish to. But I don't think you will be able to pull a "final solution" on them like you seem to want.
In the game Overlord all the Elves got enslaved by the dwarfs and you can choose to wipe out the Elven race by killing all the Elven women.
 
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Guys/gals, keep the thread civil, please. As SolSara already pointed out, otherwise we'll have to close the thread.
 

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I just feel that the extinction of elves should be a legitimate game function. Obviously I'd prefer if they put up a fight in the process, even in their villages as my army of dwarves burns them to the ground. If possible, I'd also like the title "Elfslayer" to be given to my character.

Wait a tick, TITLES. Will we get titles for achievements we accomplish through quests or feats of strength, such as elf-killing?
 

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I just feel that the extinction of elves should be a legitimate game function. Obviously I'd prefer if they put up a fight in the process, even in their villages as my army of dwarves burns them to the ground. If possible, I'd also like the title "Elfslayer" to be given to my character.

Wait a tick, TITLES. Will we get titles for achievements we accomplish through quests or feats of strength, such as elf-killing?
But in that case, you should be able to completely eliminate any race, right?
 

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But in that case, you should be able to completely eliminate any race, right?

Sure, but if you kill a dwarf, an angel loses its wings.
 

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And clearly you are putting all elves into the same basket. There is a difference between light elves (which are "good" and hence will be my enemies) and there are dark elves (which are "evil" and will be my friends, yes I will murder those inferior humans for the sake of fun!)

And their all arrogant, conceited, better-than-you three-maters. Any elf must prove otherwise.
 

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Sounds interesting.

I could only find the saga in Icelandic:
http://sagadb.org/kjalnesinga_saga

Any idea on where to find it in English?

No, a friend who is a native speaker in college translated it for me, loosely, back when Runemaster was announced (one of the gamedevs referenced it in a post I think). Probably not as compelling as the saga itself in summarized paragraph form in English.

@shal: Every elf IS in the same basket, an evil basket.
 
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