How far is "too far from the nearest port"?

[Agenor]

I can't figure this out.

I wanted the tropical wood in New Guinea, but it's too far away, so thought I would claim Yebuti first. Did this, it was still out of reach, as were all the other East Asian colonies. So I built a civilian harbour. No difference. Then a small harbour, then a medium harbour. I still can't reach Flores, let alone New Guinea. Is this working as designed?

I thought building harbours was supposed to increase the range of your ports, but it seems to do nothing. Also, the AI never builds harbours, as far as I can tell. Introducing this idea of harbours and ports was just silly. No wonder the only powers ever to colonize the Far East are the British and Dutch. No one else can reach them. (Perhaps the Russians can, but they don't bother.)

 

[noddysseus]

Harbours definitely increase the range for building colonial buildings.
I think you'll find that Yebuti is just too far away.
Why not try dowing an unciv somewhere in the general region and build yourself a port?

 

[Orm]

I can't figure this out.

I wanted the tropical wood in New Guinea, but it's too far away, so thought I would claim Yebuti first. Did this, it was still out of reach, as were all the other East Asian colonies. So I built a civilian harbour. No difference. Then a small harbour, then a medium harbour. I still can't reach Flores, let alone New Guinea. Is this working as designed?

I thought building harbours was supposed to increase the range of your ports, but it seems to do nothing. Also, the AI never builds harbours, as far as I can tell. Introducing this idea of harbours and ports was just silly. No wonder the only powers ever to colonize the Far East are the British and Dutch. No one else can reach them. (Perhaps the Russians can, but they don't bother.)

Yebuti to the Far East is pretty far. Increasing the port size does work as designed AFAIK.
The British and the Dutch are just behaving historically, is that a problem?

 

[ComradeOm]

Are we talking about the same Yebuti beside Ethiopia? That's half a world away from East Asia

No wonder the only powers ever to colonize the Far East are the British and Dutch

And the Russians, Japanese, and Americans

 

[noddysseus]

Are we talking about the same Yebuti beside Ethiopia? That's half a world away from East Asia

And the Russians, Japanese, and Americans

Don't forget the Spanish or the Portuguese!!!

 

[ComradeOm]

Don't forget the Spanish or the Portuguese!!!

Pffft if you want to colonise with them then go play EU

 

[OHgamer]

Pffft if you want to colonise with them then go play EU

Now, the Portuguese did carve out an empire in Africa in the late 19th C, transforming their moldering coastal ports into bases from which to secure the hinterland.

As for the Spanish, well they did force the Germans to accept Spanish dominance in the Palaus and Carolines in the mid-1880s (in exchange for German dominance in the Marshalls).

 

[ComradeOm]

Now, the Portuguese did carve out an empire in Africa in the late 19th C, transforming their moldering coastal ports into bases from which to secure the hinterland.

Didn't the Portuguese retain their holdings solely (well, largely) because the Big Boys (Britain, France & Germany) couldn't decide on a satisfactory division of them?

 

[OHgamer]

Didn't the Portuguese retain their holdings solely (well, largely) because the Big Boys (Britain, France & Germany) couldn't decide on a satisfactory division of them?

Yeah but they still had to consolidate their power over the various native peoples in the interior. That was a major accomplishment in itself given the state of Portuguese power in this period.