How does the trade model international trade at the time.

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How does it work? So you pay for resources by lending the use of civilian factories but, how do control the Civilian factories if your the government? Do you only control some factories based on your laws? Can someone explain how all of this works and relates to how it actually worked during WW2?
 

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You have access to a certain % of your civilian factories based upon your laws. So you may have access to say 20/40 of your factories. You then trade them for resources so say you trade 5 factories for oil. Then you can only use 15 civilian factories for your own construction/infrastructure. Civilian factories are more so just called that because they produce civilian goods. Whether it be building factories, roads, consumer good or whatever its pretty much anything that isn't used by the military.
 

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No? I thought you always have full control of your civilian factories, but higher trade laws force you to send higher amount of your resources to international trade. High trade laws increases your productivity as well, so you actually end up with more capacity, + potential extra factories from your resources.
 

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No? I thought you always have full control of your civilian factories, but higher trade laws force you to send higher amount of your resources to international trade. High trade laws increases your productivity as well, so you actually end up with more capacity, + potential extra factories from your resources.
I believe some are used for consumer goods based on the laws you have.
 
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Think of it in this way-
Germany produces 10000 Volkswagon Cars, 25000 Opel Trucks, 50000 Washing Machines/Vaccum Cleaners etc, 5000 Induction Furnaces of 5 MT and more, 10000 Lathes of various bed lengths and 10000 of milling machines, surface grinders, drills etc (machine tools).
But it lacks 2000 OIL needed to produce - Tanks, Planes etc.

What it does is it sells its Cars, Trucks, Washing Machines and Machine tools to Romania, USSR, USA and buys that oil. This is what happened in Real Life too,

From wiki- (this is only for the Calendar Year of 1940) and between Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia -
On February 11, 1940, Germany and the Soviet Union entered into an intricate trade pact in which the Soviet Union would send Germany 650 million Reichsmarks in raw materials in exchange for 650 million Reichmarks in machinery, manufactured goods and technology. The main raw materials specified in the agreement were one million tons of grain, 900,000 tons of oil and more than 500,000 tons of various metal ores (mostly iron ore) in exchange for synthetic material plants, ships, turrets, machine tools and coal.
The Soviets were to receive the incomplete Admiral Hipper-class naval cruiser Lützow, the plans to the battleship Bismarck, information on German naval testing, "complete machinery for a large destroyer", heavy naval guns, three 38.1 cm (15 inch) twin turrets to defend ports, preliminary sketches for a 40.6 cm triple turret, working drawings for a 28 cm turret, other naval gear and samples of thirty of Germany's latest warplanes, including the Me-109 fighter, Me-110 fighter and Ju-88 bomber.
The Soviets would also receive oil and electric equipment, locomotives, turbines, generators, diesel engines, ships, machine tools and samples of Germany artillery, tanks, explosives, chemical-warfare equipment and other items.
 
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You have access to a certain % of your civilian factories based upon your laws. So you may have access to say 20/40 of your factories. You then trade them for resources so say you trade 5 factories for oil. Then you can only use 15 civilian factories for your own construction/infrastructure. Civilian factories are more so just called that because they produce civilian goods. Whether it be building factories, roads, consumer good or whatever its pretty much anything that isn't used by the military.
Thats wrong. You always have all your factories at your disposal, even tho some are always busy with consumer goods. Your strategic resources are those that get split up. You cant access 100% of your produced steel for example since a portion of it, depending on the trade law, is reserved for trading.

The formular for consumer goods is:

Consumer Goods = (M+C)xG
M= Military factories
C= Civilian Factories
G= Consumer Good need

The need for consumer goods is influenced by the mobilization policies. Undisturbed Isolation has an 40% need, Civilian Economy 30%, Early Mobilization 25%, Partial Mobilization 20%, War Economy 15% and Total Mobilization 10%.

When it comes to trade law you look at 80% of your resoruces reserved for the market, export focus 50%, limited Exports 25% and Closed Economy 0%. Export laws also give bonuses to factory output and research speed, so going closed economy really is only something you should consider if you are basicly scraping the barrel.

Closed Economy can only be used if you are at war, facist or communist and if you have war economy or total economic mobilization active. Democratic nations cant enact Closed Economy at all.
 
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Thats wrong. You always have all your factories at your disposal, even tho some are busy with consumer goods. Your strategic resources are those that get split up. You cant access 100% of your produced steel for example since a portion of it, depending on the trade law, is reserved for trading.
First, you are right some Civilian factories will be automatically set aside for consumer good. But I believe you can't decide to just produce less consumer goods, therefore I would say these factories are effectively lost. (Same as ressources.)

About ressources, the Trade Law "Closed economy" will give you access to 100% of your ressources. Of course that means you can't trade and it is only aviable when at war. (Or you are facist / communist)
 

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First, you are right some Civilian factories will be automatically set aside for consumer good. But I believe you can't decide to just produce less consumer goods, therefore I would say these factories are effectively lost. (Same as ressources.)

About ressources, the Trade Law "Closed economy" will give you access to 100% of your ressources. Of course that means you can't trade and it is only aviable when at war. (Or you are facist / communist)
Well, depending on your mobilization you can controll how much consumer goods are needed, but they are always between 10%-40%. Sure, Closed Economy doesnt take any resoruces away, but it has strict requirements of when you can enact it, and you basicly stop trade alltogether. You have to be at war, facist or communist and have war economy or total economic mobiliazion active all together. Democratic nations cant enact Closed Economy. Thats why i said depending on your trade law, since basicly everything is effected by your active laws. ;)
 
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