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I feel like this is one of those things where there's a clear answer, but for whatever reason I keep looking past it.
To be clear: I'm not confused about the why of partition, just the nitty-gritty of how. I want to give all of my children the titles they feel they deserve, I just want to choose who gets which title by granting it to them before I die.
So let's say I'm a King with a boatload of eligible children, and lots of newly conquered lands in my domain to distribute to them. What I can't seem to wrap my head around is how the game determines which child should get which title on succession, and how best to distribute them ahead of time so that everybody's happy.
Ideally, I'd like to keep things neat and tidy, and keep border gore to an absolute minimum. So I'm trying to hand out duchies and counties in the way I'd like them to be distributed to that end. Unfortunately, what I don't understand is why the game thinks "Actually, this one son needs one more county title, so we're going to give him this county way over here on the other side of the realm that you were hoping would go to your primary heir instead. The rest of the kids are totally cool with what they already have though."
I feel like this would be easier to micro-manage if the game communicated to me "This child will expect a duchy title", and "This child will expect three county titles" and then I could grant the number of titles they want without having to guess whether, after all the titles are distributed, there'll be some equilibrium and no one will be expecting more.
Is there a better way to calculate or determine how many titles of which level each child will expect / be given?
The oldest child is given the primary title along with the capital and any higher title it belongs to de jure.
All titles, of the same tier as the primary, are distributed in the order they're displayed, with priority given to the oldest child with the fewest titles of that rank. Junior heirs are also given any lower title that's de jure theirs.
All titles, one tier below the previous, are distributed likewise. Children who received titles in the previous step will be excluded; this does not apply to the primary heir...
Partition is done in steps - first, the primary heir is given the primary title and the capital county, and any de-jure titles over it up to the tier below the primary title (so if the primary title is a kingdom, your heir will keep the duchy title the capital is de-jure part of, as well as the primary title). These are the titles that your primary heir is always entitled to.
Then, by tier, any other titles are handed out. If a secondary heir receives a title of duke tier or above, they will also be given any lower tier titles de-jure part of that title, but will be skipped on any lower tiers. If there are a greater number of titles in a tier than there are children to inherit them, higher tier titles of the primary heir count as titles received in that round, i.e., if you have a kingdom and four duchies and three sons, your second son will receive the fourth duchy as his second duchy.
Granting the titles in advance does not change this operation (but you can give titles to secondary heirs that they would not be entitled to), but titles that become independent are not counted as part of inheritance.
The short takeaway from this is that if you hand over one duchy to each of your secondary heirs and keep one duchy for your primary heir, any counties you have that are not de-jure part of any title a secondary heir is inheriting will be inherited by your primary heir.
I feel like this is one of those things where there's a clear answer, but for whatever reason I keep looking past it.
To be clear: I'm not confused about the why of partition, just the nitty-gritty of how. I want to give all of my children the titles they feel they deserve, I just want to choose who gets which title by granting it to them before I die.
So let's say I'm a King with a boatload of eligible children, and lots of newly conquered lands in my domain to distribute to them. What I can't seem to wrap my head around is how the game determines which child should get which title on succession, and how best to distribute them ahead of time so that everybody's happy.
Ideally, I'd like to keep things neat and tidy, and keep border gore to an absolute minimum. So I'm trying to hand out duchies and counties in the way I'd like them to be distributed to that end. Unfortunately, what I don't understand is why the game thinks "Actually, this one son needs one more county title, so we're going to give him this county way over here on the other side of the realm that you were hoping would go to your primary heir instead. The rest of the kids are totally cool with what they already have though."
I feel like this would be easier to micro-manage if the game communicated to me "This child will expect a duchy title", and "This child will expect three county titles" and then I could grant the number of titles they want without having to guess whether, after all the titles are distributed, there'll be some equilibrium and no one will be expecting more.
Is there a better way to calculate or determine how many titles of which level each child will expect / be given?
Relatively simple
Heir gets primary title and capital
If confederate partition new titles are created for no prestige or gold, any spare titles get handed out evenly
Game tries to follow de jure distribution
And how often do you want the game to calculate these previews? As this could slow the game down massively. Will just the player see it, or does every ai also see it?
And how often do you want the game to calculate these previews? As this could slow the game down massively. Will just the player see it, or does every ai also see it?
Right, sorry, I should have tried to make this more clear in my post: I realize you can see how the titles will be distributed when you die in the Succession tab.
What I mean is: I know you can circumvent how the game will distribute your titles somewhat (as shown in the Succession tab) by handing them out ahead of time (i.e. before you die).
The only problem is: I want to give out my titles in such a way that might not correspond exactly with how the game has determined which titles should go to who.
In the past I've been able to finagle it so that, on my death, all my remaining titles go to my primary heir - because, by then, all my other children who would otherwise inherit titles already have some.
In my most recent game, though, after distributing all my titles except the ones I want going to my primary heir, I still have a (now landed) son inheriting a county according to the Succession tab.
What I'm wondering is: Rather than brute force trial and error to try and find out what the game considers an acceptably even distribution of titles, which is what I'm doing now, is there a way to determine/predict how the game calculates an "even" distribution of titles?
At the moment I'm just kind of guessing that duchies should go to my oldest sons, and counties to the rest. Yet I can't seem to keep one or two stray counties from still being inherited by some random count son of mine.
Relatively simple
Heir gets primary title and capital
If confederate partition new titles are created for no prestige or gold, any spare titles get handed out evenly
Game tries to follow de jure distribution
Kind of. First off, the game wants you to have a corresponding title of equal rank to your primary title for each heir. So, if you are a duke the game wants to give each heir a duchy and if you are a king the game wants to give each heir a kingdom. If you meet that requirement then everything is fine. If you can't then the game goes down to your next level of title and starts handing those out. So, if you are a duke it starts handing out counties and if you are a king it will start handing out duchies and then counties if you don't have enough duchies for each heir. However, the game will not subdivide your non-primary heirs' inheritance but will subdivide your primary heir's inheritance. So, if you are a king with two duchies, two counties in each duchy, and three heirs the eldest will inherit your kingdom and it's capital duchy and county, your second heir will get your other duchy and its two counties and your final will get the non-capital county in your capital duchy. No matter how many other heirs you have the duchy and counties your second heir will never be subdivided. Any counties you own that are outside of your capital duchy that you don't also have the corresponding duchy title to are also passed out to any non-primary heirs you have that aren't inheriting a duchy of their own. When the game says "even" it is only really talking about your top tier titles if you have multiples of the same rank but otherwise it basically will take from your primary heir until you run out of titles or heirs that need titles.
Partition is done in steps - first, the primary heir is given the primary title and the capital county, and any de-jure titles over it up to the tier below the primary title (so if the primary title is a kingdom, your heir will keep the duchy title the capital is de-jure part of, as well as the primary title). These are the titles that your primary heir is always entitled to.
Then, by tier, any other titles are handed out. If a secondary heir receives a title of duke tier or above, they will also be given any lower tier titles de-jure part of that title, but will be skipped on any lower tiers. If there are a greater number of titles in a tier than there are children to inherit them, higher tier titles of the primary heir count as titles received in that round, i.e., if you have a kingdom and four duchies and three sons, your second son will receive the fourth duchy as his second duchy.
Granting the titles in advance does not change this operation (but you can give titles to secondary heirs that they would not be entitled to), but titles that become independent are not counted as part of inheritance.
The short takeaway from this is that if you hand over one duchy to each of your secondary heirs and keep one duchy for your primary heir, any counties you have that are not de-jure part of any title a secondary heir is inheriting will be inherited by your primary heir.
This is very helpful; thanks for understanding my muddled mess of a question.
So I get that the eldest children get all the duchy titles (other than the capital duchy title), but in what order? Which duchy to which son? Is it based on development? Number of counties/baronies? That's one part of what I'm confused about.
In my latest save, I have more inheriting sons than duchy titles from all of them to inherit. So the eldest sons get those duchies split between them, but then the rest get counties. That makes sense.
But where I'm running into problems is that I tried to circumvent this somewhat by giving my younger sons counties within the duchies of the elder sons, and making the former vassals of the latter. Unfortunately now those younger sons still stand to inherit additional counties I wanted to go to my primary heir, outside the duchy their county is in.
So I guess I'm confused about why that is happening. Is it because they're now no longer my direct vassal?
But where I'm running into problems is that I tried to circumvent this somewhat by giving my younger sons counties within the duchies of the elder sons, and making the former vassals of the latter. Unfortunately now those younger sons still stand to inherit additional counties I wanted to go to my primary heir, outside the duchy their county is in.
You basically just need to give each of your heirs a duchy and then they should stop taking counties from your primary as long as those counties are all in the duchy your primary heir is getting. The game doesn't like to split titles between heirs of equal rank but since some of your heirs are counts and not dukes that probably isn't applying.
So basically: The game doesn't count (no pun intended) counties that are de jure a part of a duchy another child is inheriting as part of the distribution of titles on succession.
Or in other words: Every child needs to inherit a title that would make them either a) independent or b) a direct vassal of the primary heir. They can't become vassals of another/older secondary heir.
So basically: The game doesn't count (no pun intended) counties that are de jure a part of a duchy another child is inheriting as part of the distribution of titles on succession. Or in other words: Every child needs to inherit a title that would make them either a) independent or b) a direct vassal of the primary heir. They can't become vassals of another/older secondary heir.
Depends, from my understanding. The game tries to have a clean succession where each inheritance is divided up by de jure boundaries. So, if you a king with three sons and three duchies the counties will not be further subdivided in order to maintain de jure boundaries regardless of how many counties each heir is getting. If you are a king with two kingdoms and three sons, if your third son is inheriting a duchy that is a de jure part of the kingdom your second son is inheriting then all of the duchies and counties that are apart of your primary kingdom title should go to your primary heir. This is in addition to the other rules of partition explained above. The process seems to be handing out titles from highest to lowest while not splitting de jure territory among equally ranked titles. In your example, since your youngest son is a count the game still wants to give him titles and since he isn't a duke the check about keeping clean boundaries probably isn't applying since the titles he is inheriting can't be subdivided. That's how I understand it at least.
This is very helpful; thanks for understanding my muddled mess of a question.
So I get that the eldest children get all the duchy titles (other than the capital duchy title), but in what order? Which duchy to which son? Is it based on development? Number of counties/baronies? That's one part of what I'm confused about.
In my latest save, I have more inheriting sons than duchy titles from all of them to inherit. So the eldest sons get those duchies split between them, but then the rest get counties. That makes sense.
But where I'm running into problems is that I tried to circumvent this somewhat by giving my younger sons counties within the duchies of the elder sons, and making the former vassals of the latter. Unfortunately now those younger sons still stand to inherit additional counties I wanted to go to my primary heir, outside the duchy their county is in.
So I guess I'm confused about why that is happening. Is it because they're now no longer my direct vassal?
The order is simply the listing order of the titles - usually this means the oldest acquired titles go to the oldest children. For the tier of your primary title you can actually manually sort them to arrange inheritance some - whenever you change your primary title, that title is moved to the head of the list.
For the second part, I can't recall if titles that would be vassal to other secondary heirs are excluded from the count, but regardless, if a heir is only inheriting counties, they will inherit them no matter the de-jure status, but as this is the last step of the partition, counties that are de-jure part of titles inherited by other secondary heirs are not on the table. So, if you give a potential heir a single county that would be a vassal to another heir, they'll not be happy to see your primary heir get multiple counties - at the last step of partition, any remaining counties (that is, counties that weren't given as de-jure part of higher tier titles) are split among the primary heir and any secondary heirs that did not receive a higher tier title.
The important thing to realize is that the primary heir and the secondary heirs play by different rules - the primary heir is always entitled to certain titles through the capital rule, but while any empire, kingdom and duchy titles inherited by secondary heirs have all their de-jure vassal titles given to that heir immediately, any titles de-jure vassal to any titles assigned to the primary heir can still be inherited by other secondary heirs. And while the primary heir can (and likely will) gain titles on each step of the partition, each secondary heir will only take part in a single "round" of partition, rounds being the tiers of titles being given out. Once all duchies are given out, any secondary heir that gained one or more duchies cannot partake in the last round of partition where the remaining counties are split between the primary heir and any heirs that still remain without titles from previous rounds.
I think, it corresponds with the order of your titles you can see in character screen (which is obviously the order of inheritance/creation) ... I tried editing a savegane and if you change the order of your titles you can change who gets what ... not sure, if it‘s worth planning ahead when you conquer land, though
There was a thread way back at launch that dived into a lot of these questions. I suspect most, if not all, of it is still accurate - though I can't be 100% sure.
The stuff about how titles are ordered and distributed is useful to what you're asking though.
Before We dive into Succession Laws, BASICS. {Correct Me if any information given is wrong. If You disagree with any information given, be respectful and I am open for a healthy argument. Feel free to give any suggestion to improve this Thread}...
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Before We dive into Succession Laws, BASICS.
{Correct Me if any information given is wrong. If You disagree with any information given, be respectful and I am open for a healthy argument. Feel free to give any suggestion to improve this Thread}
Player Heir: The character the Player (You) will continue to play in the game if the current character that You are playing dies. Player Heir can only be of the character’s Dynasty. Usually, it is the Eldest Child of the Ruler who is the Player Heir (unless the Succession Law states otherwise).
Primary Heir: The character who will inherit the Primary Title of the Ruler when the Ruler dies.
{The Player Heir might be different from the Primary Heir in some Succession Laws, especially in Elective type laws, where the Primary Heir can be someone from another Dynasty.}
Eligible Child: Children of the Ruler who are allowed to inherit based on Gender Law. Bastards can stand to inherit only if they are legitimized (Marriage Doctrine under Faith dictates if Bastards can be legitimized).
Male Only: Only the Son(s) of the Ruler (including Bastards if legitimized) are Eligible Children for inheritance. The Daughter(s) of the Ruler are not eligible for inheritance, even if the Ruler doesn't have a Son.
{If a Ruler has 3 Sons and 2 Daughters, only those 3 Sons can inherit the Ruler’s Titles. If the Ruler has no Son and 2 Daughters, the Daughters will never inherit.}
Male Preference: The Daughter(s) of the Ruler (including Bastards if legitimized) are Eligible Children for inheritance if and only if the Ruler has no Son. If the Ruler has even one Son, the Daughter(s) will not be eligible for inheritance.
{If a Ruler has 3 Sons and 2 Daughters, only those 3 Sons can inherit the Ruler’s Titles. If the Ruler has no Sons and 2 Daughters, the Daughters can inherit}
Equal: Every Child of the Ruler (including Bastards if legitimized) are eligible for inheritance.
{If a Ruler has 3 Sons and 2 Daughters, all of them can inherit the Ruler’s Titles. If the Ruler has no Son and 2 Daughters, the Daughters can inherit}
Female Only and Female Preference are the same as Male Only and Male Preference but the genders are flipped.
Implicit Claim: All Children of the Ruler have an implicit claim on all Ruler's Titles until the Ruler dies.
{For some reason, no matter the Gender Law, Daughters don't seem to have any Implicit Claim}
Pressed Claim: Each Child of the Ruler gets a pressed claim on all Titles of the Ruler that they don't inherit (or is not in their Realm) when the Ruler dies.
Title Tier: Empire > Kingdom > Duchy > County > Barony
Might have a different name for different religions and/or governments but the tier will be the same.
The Line of Succession: The order in which the Eligible Children (or Candidates) "stand to inherit" Titles of the Ruler. In most cases, The eldest Eligible Child is the 1st in the Line of Succession and the youngest Eligible Child is the Last in the Line of Succession.
For Ultimogeniture The order is reversed and for House Seniority, it starts with the eldest Living Member of the Player's House to the youngest.
NOTE 1: You can not grant a Titles to You Primary Heir which some other Eligible Child stands to inherit. But You can grant a Title that Your Primary Heir stands to inherit to the other Eligible Children. NOTE 2: Baronies of the Ruler will be inherited by the Eligible Child who will inherits the County that it belongs to.
Succession Laws
Rules according to which the Titles of the Ruler are inherited by the Eligible Children on the Ruler’s death. These laws only apply to Eligible Children of the Ruler.
There are 2 different places where the Succession Laws apply.
One is Realm Succession Law, which dictates how all the Titles held by the Ruler will be inherited by the Eligible Child (or House Member in case of House Seniority). In Realm Succession Law, only members of your House will be eligible to inherit.
Another is Title Succession Law for every higher tier Title starting from the Duchy tier. Title Succession Law will apply to each individual Title after the Realm Succession Laws are applied.
Realm Succession Law:
Applies to the Realm as a whole.
“Order of the Titles”: This is a term that I will use to state the order in which the Titles of the different tier will be arranged for inheritance. The character details (the one that shows the details of a character including Titles held when You click on a character) will have Titles held by them in a specific order.
The order is, as far as I can understand,
1. Primary Title will be the first in order.
2. Higher tier Titles are ordered before (to the left of) the lower tier Titles.
3. For the Titles of the Same tier, the older Titles (the Titles that were inherited or created or usurped by the Ruler before the others) is ordered before (to the left of) newer Titles.
{Eg: A King has 5 Kingdoms, 2 Duchies and 5 Counts.
He inherited 2 Kingdoms K1 and K2, then usurped Kingdom K3, then created Kingdom K4, then destroyed and recreated Kingdom K2, and then inherited Kingdom K5 and made it the Primary Title.
He has enough De Jure Counties to form 3 Kingdoms of which K6x has the highest number of De Jure Titles under it held by the King followed by K7x and then K8x (initial testing shows that the order is based on number of De Jure Titles under it held, I could be wrong and the primary factor could be something else).
Duchy D1 was inherited and Duchy D2, the De Jure Duchy of the Realm Capital, was created later.
The 5 Counties He inherited are C1, C2 and C3, followed by taking C4 and C5 in a war and then made C4 the Realm Capital.
The order in which all these Titles will be displayed in the character details will be (from left to right)
"Order of Distribution": This is a term I will use to state how the remaining Titles of the "same tier" will be inherited by the "remaining" Eligible Children once the Ruler dies in Multiple Heir Succession type Succession Laws. I stress the word "remaining" as Titles that are inherited before (or higher tier Titles) will not be available for inheritance and Eligible Children who have already inherited higher tier Titles will become ineligible for inheritance in lower tier Titles (except Primary Heir).
Step 1: Only Eligible Children with "0"(zero/no) Title of equal or higher tier within that realm will be a participant of Round "1".
Step 2: For all the Participant in Round "1", each one based on the Line of Succession will inherit one Title of that tier following the "Order of the Title". Round "1" ends.
Step 3: If there are Titles of that tier left, only Eligible Children with "1" Title of equal or higher tier within that realm will be a participant of Round "2".
Step 4: For all the Participant in Round "2", each one based on the Line of Succession will inherit one Title of that tier following the "Order of the Title". Round "2" ends.
The same pattern will be followed until all Titles of that tier are inherited.
Note 1: If an Eligible Child already held Title(s) of that tier when the Succession happens, that Title will also be included in the count to determine eligibility for every Round.
Note 2: Primary Heir who might inherit De Jure Titles of the Realm Capital before "Order of Distribution" is applied, will also have that De Jure Title of that tier included in the count to determine eligibility for every Round.
{Eg: A King has a Kingdom K and 7 Duchies D1 to D6 in the "Order of the Titles" and DJ the De Jure Duchy of the Realm Capital.
He has 3 Eligible Child PH, H1 and H2 in the order of the Line of Succession. PH is the Primary Heir.
PH and H2 hold a Duchy each (D1x and D2x respectively) when the King is alive.
When the King dies, Succession firesunder Confederate Partition law.
PH will inherit K, the Primary Title, and DJ the De Jure Duchy of the Realm Capital.
Round 1 for Duchy: PH with 2 Duchies and a Kingdom (D1x, DJ and K) and H2 with 1 Duchy (D2x) can not participate. Only H1 with 0 Duchy of higher tier can participate. H1 gets D1.
Round 2 for Duchy: PH with 3 equal or higher tier Titles can not participate while H1 with D1 and H2 with D2x can participate, each having only 1. H1, being higher in the Line of Succession, will get D2 and then H2 will get D3.
Round 3 for Duchy: PH has 3 equal or higher tier Title (D1x, DJ and K) while H1 and H2 have only 2. So H1 gets D4 and H2 gets D5
Round 3 for Duchy: Everyone is eligible as all have 3 equal or higher tier Titles. PH starts with D6 and H1 get D7. Round ends as no more Titles are left.
PH has K, D1x, DJ, and D6. H1 has D1, D2 D4 and D7. H2 has D2x, D3 and D5.}
1. Confederate Partition:
{“#TheMostConfusingPartitonEverInHistory” for almost everyone new Player. Some argue that this type of Partition is ahistorical only because they don’t understand it well. I would recommend playing in debug mode to explore how Succession Law works for different kinds of setups (that is how I learned). Once You understand the Confederate Partition, every other Succession Laws will be easier to understand as they are just simplified versions of the former. I will include an example after explaining all the rules so do read till the end and compare the example with the rules below. Example under construction.}
Rule:
Eligible Children will only inherit Titles held by the Ruler (new Titles of the Primary Title tier will be created if enough De Jure Counties under it is held, but Titles will not be usurped).
If an Eligible Child is to inherit a Duchy or higher Title without being landed or having any County to inherit under it, the De Jure Capital County of the highest tier Title inherited will be automatically given to the Child if it is present in the Realm. If the De Jure Capital of the highest tier Title is outside the Realm, the De Jure Capital of a Title below the highest tier Title will be given.
Step 1:
Primary Heir (usually the Player Heir) will inherit the Primary Title, the Realm Capital (Realm Capital can be changed once per Ruler) and all lower tier De Jure Titles the Realm Capital belongs to (De Jure Duchy of the Realm Capital if the Ruler is a King, also the De Jure Kingdom of that Duchy if the Ruler is an Emperor).
No new Title will be created in this step.
Step 2:
Titles of the same tier as the Primary Title will be created if it can be (if the Ruler holds enough De Jure Counties under that Title).
Titles of that tier will be inherited based on the "Order of Distribution" by all the Eligible Children including the Primary Heir. If the Realm Capital is De Jure County of a Title (of the same tier as the Primary Title) other than the Primary Title, Primary Heir will inherit that if He stands to inherit more than two Titles of the Primary Title tier (in this step).
All Titles of lower tier that are De Jure of the inherited Titles will be inherited by the respective Children.
Every Eligible Child that inherits a Title in this step will become independent.
Every Eligible Child, except the Primary Heir, that inherits a Title in this step will not stand to inherit any Titles of low tier (i.e., will not be a part of the following steps).
Step 3:
If there are no Eligible Child left for the remaining Titles, The Primary Heir inherits all the remaining Titles. If there is even one Eligible Child other than the Primary Heir left to inherit a Title, the next step is followed.
Step 4:
Titles, one tier below the last inherited tier of Titles, will be inherited based on the "Order of Distribution" by all the remaining Eligible Children including the Primary Heir.
All Titles of lower tier that are De Jure of the inherited Titles will be inherited by the respective Children.
Every Eligible Child that inherits a Title in this step will become the Vassal of the Primary Heir.
Every Eligible Child, except the Primary Heir, that inherits a Title in this step will not stand to inherit any Titles of low tier.
Step 5:
Last two steps are repeated until all Titles are inherited.
2. Partition:
Same as Confederate Partition but no new Titles will be created in any Step 2.
3. High Partition:
Step 1 of Confederate Partition.
Step 2 of Confederate Partition.
Step 3:
Primary Heir will inherit the lion’s share (as much as possible but not more than 50%) of the Titles on the same tier of the Primary Title, the oldest Titles held by the Ruler will be prioritized. Lion’s share for the Primary Heir (includes the De Jure Title of the Realm Capital given in the previous step). If the Realm Capital is De Jure County of a Title (of the same tier as the Primary Title) other than the Primary Title, Primary Heir will inherit that if He stands to inherit more than two Titles of the Primary Title tier (in this step).
The remaining Titles of the same tier will be inherited based on the “Order of Distribution” by the remaining Eligible Children except the Primary Heir.
All Titles of lower tier that are De Jure of the inherited Titles will be inherited by the respective Children.
Every Eligible Child that inherits a Title in this step will become independent.
Every Eligible Child, except the Primary Heir, that inherits a Title in this step will not stand to inherit any Titles of low tier (i.e., will not be a part of the following steps).
Step 4:
Each subsequent lower tier Title follows the same rule as the previous step where the Primary Heir will get the lion’s share of the remaining Titles of that tier (including De Jure Title of the Realm Capital).
The remaining Titles of the same tier will be inherited based on the “Order of Distribution” by the remaining Eligible Children except the Primary Heir.
All Titles of lower tier that are De Jure of the inherited Titles will be inherited by the respective Children.
Every Eligible Child that inherits a Title in this step will become the Vassal of the Primary Heir.
Every Eligible Child, except the Primary Heir, that inherits a Title in this step will not stand to inherit any Titles of low tier.
Step 5:
The previous step of lion's share inheritance by the Primary Heir followed by “Order of Distribution” for the remaining Eligible Children continues until all remaining Titles including Counties (if enough Eligible Children are present) will be inherited.
Single Heir Succession,
1. Primogeniture:
The Oldest Eligible Child will inherit all Titles. Other Eligible Children will inherit no Title.
2. Ultimogeniture:
The Youngest Eligible Child will inherit all Titles. Other Eligible Children will inherit no Title.
3. House Seniority:
Oldest living member of the Player’s House will inherit all Titles. If that oldest member is not an Eligible Child, none of the Eligible Children will inherit any Title.
Title Succession Law:
Laws that applies to individual Titles after Realm Succession Laws are applied. Can be viewed and changed in the Title screen that appears when the banner of the Title is selected.
1. Same Realm Succession Law but with a different Gender Preference for the Title.
This law will be applied alongside Realm Succession Law. The Realm Succession Law can have male preference but if a Title has female preference, the succession will be different.
2. Feudal Elective:
Electors: Ruler, De Jure Vassals of upto two ranks/tier below the Title.
Nominees: Close Family of Ruler, De Jure Vassals of upto two ranks/tier below the Title.
3. Princely Elective:
Electors: Emperor, the seven Prince-Electors.
Nominees: Ruler’s Legitimate Children and Siblings, the seven Prince-Electors, major De Jure Vassals of the Empire.
4. Saxon Elective:
Electors: Ruler, all direct adult De Jure Vassals of upto two ranks/tier below the Title.
Electors: Ruler, all De Jure Vassals except Barons.
Nominees: Ruler’s extended Family, Claimants
6. Tanistry Elective:
Electors: Ruler, all Vassal upto two ranks/tier below the Title.
Nominees: Ruler’s Dynasty members.
{In certain conditions, the Primary Heir might be the successor according to Realm Succession Law but because of the Title Succession Law, he might lose that Title to someone else in Elections, even to someone outside the Player’s Dynasty.}
WARNING! At the current state of the Game, a different Title Succession Law seems to break the Succession Mechanic. I am still sure if it is working as intended (and Me unable to understand) or the Mechanic is indeed broken. I would suggest You not to change the Title succession law just to make sure You game plans work the way You want to.
A Save Game to demonstrate all these Succession Laws is being prepared. I will add it soon, so do check later.
I would prefer some kind of point system, whereby each child is assigned a certain amount of points. Then each title held by the ruler is also assigned points, with the total of the title points matching the total of the child points. Each child then expects to inherit a certain amount of titles matching it's expectation points. That way the player can manually organise his/her inheritance and create borders as he/she wishes, as long as each child is served.
Haven't given too much thought about this idea, though, so haven't thought about any practical limitations.
I would prefer some kind of point system, whereby each child is assigned a certain amount of points. Then each title held by the ruler is also assigned points, with the total of the title points matching the total of the child points. Each child then expects to inherit a certain amount of titles matching it's expectation points. That way the player can manually organise his/her inheritance and create borders as he/she wishes, as long as each child is served.
Haven't given too much thought about this idea, though, so haven't thought about any practical limitations.
You can manually organise already by granting lands before you die. Points system will make an issue with how do you distribute single tribal baronies and multi barony coastal feudal capitals
At the moment I'm just kind of guessing that duchies should go to my oldest sons, and counties to the rest. Yet I can't seem to keep one or two stray counties from still being inherited by some random count son of mine.
The solution is to conquer more duchies. Really, that's the easiest way. You can also disinherit the child receiving random counties, but this sometimes causes other, non-disinherited, children to receive the same titles. I kept having this issue as Norse-Asatru Romagne - one of my children would inevitably be receiving one of the counties in Latium on succession - so I'd conquer a neighboring duchy from Italy, The Bizzies, or random assortment of counties/duchies on the boot and the inheritor would no longer be getting thsoe counties - they'd get the new duchy instead.
