How does strength ratio work?

[bitmode]

A bunch of focuses and AI decisions depend on the "strength ratio" between countries. Which attributes of countries contribute to this ratio? Industry? Number of divisions? Total division HP? Equipment quality? Navy?

How often is it evaluated? Is there some way to see the current ratio?

 

[Alex_brunius]

I suspect it's the same ratio as is used for blocking certain laws, meaning it should be a comparison ratio between industry as I remember.

 

[bitmode]

I suspect it's the same ratio as is used for blocking certain laws, meaning it should be a comparison ratio between industry as I remember.

That doesn't seem to be the case. I tried the DoD Hungary focus Demand Southern Slovakia (requires >= 75% strength ratio to CZE) and having close to the same number of factories didn't fulfill the condition. If by "certain laws" you mean the tougher recruitment laws, they say "Estimated enemy strength ratio of X% or more compared to our army"

 

[bitmode]

I did some testing and this ratio is really just the number of divisions (no matter how strong they are). And it's not checked as greater equal but strictly greater...

 

[LiberiusX]

I did some testing and this ratio is really just the number of divisions (no matter how strong they are). And it's not checked as greater equal but strictly greater...

Kinda odd design choice considering the game can check for manpower in the field, which seems like a more relevant measure of strength.

 

[Saint Gwynllyw]

when you set up your frontline battleplan, at the bottom of the screen underneath each generals portrait, there is a 'forces comparision'.

Does anyone know what this takes into consideration- is it purely numbers? If I have 50 fully equipped heavy tank divisions against 200 garrison divisions , will it still show 'enemy is stronger'

 

[bitmode]

when you set up your frontline battleplan, at the bottom of the screen underneath each generals portrait, there is a 'forces comparision'.

Does anyone know what this takes into consideration- is it purely numbers? If I have 50 fully equipped heavy tank divisions against 200 garrison divisions , will it still show 'enemy is stronger'

There's two defines, COMBAT_VALUE_ORG_IMPORTANCE and COMBAT_VALUE_STR_IMPORTANCE, that could be related to it. They are both set to 1, so I'm guessing the forces comparison looks at HP + Organization which would favor infantry divisions. Haven't tested it yet though. It would explain why the AI likes to go on the offensive when it has large infantry stacks?

Nevermind...

Two British divisions are "equal" to one Italian division with the exact same individual stats (the colonial division templates respectively). Removing one of the British units makes the forces comparison extremely lopsided towards Italy...

 

[Myonline]

when you set up your frontline battleplan, at the bottom of the screen underneath each generals portrait, there is a 'forces comparision'.

Does anyone know what this takes into consideration- is it purely numbers? If I have 50 fully equipped heavy tank divisions against 200 garrison divisions , will it still show 'enemy is stronger'

It takes several factors into account.
1. Pure numbers, who has the most divisions. If you have less divisions it will show in the comparison.
2. Terrain penalties, river crossings will decrease the rating.
3. Divisions still planning. Self-explanatory really, means one or more divisions in the army group are still planning their attack.
4. Divisions out of position. Means one or more divisions are not where they are supposed to be.

Note though the comparison is just a strength tool and doesn't relate to any actual strength once the shooting starts. It is only meant to display what the game thinks your chances are.

 

[RELee]

Kinda odd design choice considering the game can check for manpower in the field, which seems like a more relevant measure of strength.

I like it. It's well documented that generals and politicians all routinely compared # of divisions without taking into consideration the actual numbers within those divisions throughout WWII. Hart's book pointed out it occuring numerous times through the war. As much wiser armchair generals, we should be able to see through the smoke and compute our own odds.

 

[LiberiusX]

I like it. It's well documented that generals and politicians all routinely compared # of divisions without taking into consideration the actual numbers within those divisions throughout WWII. Hart's book pointed out it occuring numerous times through the war. As much wiser armchair generals, we should be able to see through the smoke and compute our own odds.

Fair enough.

 

[RELee]

Fair enough.

Just my own sordid, jaded opinion mind you.