How does SPAA/SPART work?

[SCP993]

So, looking through the World War Wednesday videos, I saw that you can research specialist versions of tanks for various purposes. How exactly do these work? Do we attach regiments of SPAA/SPART guns to divisions, or do we have to include them as support companies? For that matter, do we have access to regular artillery and anti tank guns outside of support companies? Finally, can we convert old equipment over to specialized versions (Panzer 3 to STUG 3 for example), or do we need to build all of it from scratch?

 

[Victor Cortez]

So, looking through the World War Wednesday videos, I saw that you can research specialist versions of tanks for various purposes. How exactly do these work? Do we attach regiments of SPAA/SPART guns to divisions, or do we have to include them as support companies?

They're regular battalions that you put in a div. Not support companies.

For that matter, do we have access to regular artillery and anti tank guns outside of support companies?

Yes for artillery. Can't remember about anti tank guns.

Finally, can we convert old equipment over to specialized versions (Panzer 3 to STUG 3 for example), or do we need to build all of it from scratch?

You need to build it from scatch.

 

[LostinSpice]

First of all we don't know all the answers but here goes:

1. How exactly do these work? They should act as artillery and antiaircraft but be able to keep up with your tanks and motor/ mech.

2. Do we attach regiments of SPAA/SPART guns to divisions, or do we have to include them as support companies? In the combat battalions - not support. Size unknown but would be similar, possibly slightly less than normal artillery etc...

3. For that matter, do we have access to regular artillery and anti tank guns outside of support companies? Yes, with infantry battalions or on their own. Should be bigger than support battilions which seem to be 24 pieces right now.

4. Finally, can we convert old equipment over to specialized versions (Panzer 3 to STUG 3 for example), or do we need to build all of it from scratch? Build from scratch only but Podcat said they might put in conversion later.

 

[grandad1982]

I really hope they add conversion of kit. Being able to change old tanks into TD etc would be great. It sounds mate the oil situation even more silly but it would be a great way to use up this old vehicles in a more useful way for less IC.

 

[Oerdin]

My guess is that it is treated like a specialist tank type which you have to research. Maybe WWW will tell us?

 

[Secret Master]

If only there was a song that could answer this question.

But alas, they are still trying to figure out how magnets work.

 

[sgt.stickybomb]

If only there was a song that could answer this question.

But alas, they are still trying to figure out how magnets work.

wat

 

[Secret Master]

wat

There is a song by the Insane Clown Posse called miracles. I won't link it due to language. But there is an infamous line in it regarding magnets and not knowing how they work.

 

[Had a dad]

How does SPAA/SPART work?

they take AA/Art and mount it on a SP frame...

 

[Had a dad]

Insane Clown Posse

would that make it ICPSPAA / ICPSPART?

 

[Secret Master]

would that make it ICPSPAA / ICPSPART?

Only if it was tanked up on Faygo and creepy clown make up.

Scarier than a skull, I think.

 

[Amur_Tiger]

It would be interesting to know what the interaction between different chassis and the AA/ART stats. Presumably there will be some back and forth between using different chassis and the power of the AA/ART mounted.

 

[Jmland]

One would hope so, Pzr 1 and 2 chassis' would be way too light for any decent sized direct fire gun tube. I think in real life, Pzr 2 chassis was limited to the 37mm and smaller gun systems because that is all that the structure could support. They would be good for light SPAAA systems, or maybe SP mortar's.....or recon. Pzr 3 chassis was able to mount some decent gun tubes (i.e. in the StuG and Marder3 models), but still limited by total weight it could carry. The Pzr 4 chassis and the P38T chassis (Jpz4 and Hetzer respectively) made very good SPAT systems, although they were still considered "medium" AT systems by the end of the war.

 

[shri]

One would hope so, Pzr 1 and 2 chassis' would be way too light for any decent sized direct fire gun tube. I think in real life, Pzr 2 chassis was limited to the 37mm and smaller gun systems because that is all that the structure could support. They would be good for light SPAAA systems, or maybe SP mortar's.....or recon. Pzr 3 chassis was able to mount some decent gun tubes (i.e. in the StuG and Marder3 models), but still limited by total weight it could carry. The Pzr 4 chassis and the P38T chassis (Jpz4 and Hetzer respectively) made very good SPAT systems, although they were still considered "medium" AT systems by the end of the war.

You should check out the Marder II series, it had a 75cm gun on a PzII chassis, was very effective as a AT weapon esp. in late war with the German army firmly on the defensive.

 

[Jmland]

I think your talking about the Marder 3. IIRC, the Marder 2 was only produced for a short time, something like 100 total units and only until other systems became available. I could be wrong, but this is what my coffee induced psychosis is telling me right now....


edit- I was wrong....

 

[shri]

A total of 576 were produced/converted in 1942-43 using the captured Soviet 7.62cm guns and then in 1943-44, a further 75 were produced.
Considering the low Tank production of the Reich, 650 seems a decent number and i am sure, the crews must have notched up at-least 2000+ kills.

 

[Secret Master]

Time to build Panzerjager XI's (because if a real life Panzerjager is labeled with the number one, then my fictional ridiculous tank destroyer should go up to eleven). It uses the Panzer I chasis, but mounts the Pak 44L/55 used on the Jagdtiger.

Sure, it only moves at the same speed as Maus, and carriers 10 rounds of ammo, but damn it, we have a lot of Panzer I's that need using up.

 

[BaReLy.]

Time to build Panzerjager XI's (because if a real life Panzerjager is labeled with the number one, then my fictional ridiculous tank destroyer should go up to eleven). It uses the Panzer I chasis, but mounts the Pak 44L/55 used on the Jagdtiger.

Sure, it only moves at the same speed as Maus, and carriers 10 rounds of ammo, but damn it, we have a lot of Panzer I's that need using up.

Reliability below 9000

 

[Secret Master]

Reliability below 9000

Must... resist... joke... Must... not... post... meme....

 

[Loke]

Time to build Panzerjager XI's (because if a real life Panzerjager is labeled with the number one, then my fictional ridiculous tank destroyer should go up to eleven). It uses the Panzer I chasis, but mounts the Pak 44L/55 used on the Jagdtiger.

Sure, it only moves at the same speed as Maus, and carriers 10 rounds of ammo, but damn it, we have a lot of Panzer I's that need using up.

Sounds almost like a Semovente with its 90/53 altho it only carried 6 rounds not the massive 10 rounds of ammo... Build on M14/41 tank chassis.