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Have never heard of it, nor any discussions about...
It was mentioned in the media a while ago (think it was Politiken or Berlingske Tidende, though not sure) and was discussed in OT. Here is the thread. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-part-of-sweden-as-greater-copenhagen.840660/

Personally I see no reason to rebrand it, especially if the countries involved won´t even discuss it...
I cannot remember too much from the discussion, but I believe it was to try and get the region more internationally recognised; again it was something Frank Jensen and pretty much nobody else thought was great as far as I remember.
not an intention to belittle Sweden or it´s ownership of Skåne.
And you call yourself a Dane!
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Speaking of new tags and 1.14, is it known already which tags will get their own ideas? Are there any CNs included there?
 

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It was mentioned in the media a while ago (think it was Politiken or Berlingske Tidende, though not sure) and was discussed in OT. Here is the thread. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-part-of-sweden-as-greater-copenhagen.840660/

I cannot remember too much from the discussion, but I believe it was to try and get the region more internationally recognised; again it was something Frank Jensen and pretty much nobody else thought was great as far as I remember.
And you call yourself a Dane!
NDUMR1I.gif

That's the article I found... at least have the sends to ask Sweden first before making such plans... sigh... asked my girlfriend who has connections to Cph and her sister lives their, she had not heard a thing about it... but I guess it only relates to Malmø, not all of Skåne? Reminds me of Nicolai Wammen rebranding Århus into Aarhus...

Hehe i'm a proud dane, can trace my family back to before EU4 as nobility :p but Skåne is de facto part of Sweden, and In more a supporter for a union rather than reclaiming it, working together would strengthen us and make it easier for all :) a proud dane who have adapted to reality... but put liquor, pork and an insult and you see my viking heritage :p if not the pork and beer is more important or has filled me enough...
 

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Speaking of new tags and 1.14, is it known already which tags will get their own ideas? Are there any CNs included there?

Do believe Wiz said that they were content with national ideas, those left that were generic were able to get unique due to changing tags... for the new, aside from the new German, has any other new tags been announced? Would suspect the new in German to have unique ones though...
 

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at least have the sends to ask Sweden first before making such plans...
Sure; though as everybody outside Copenhagen know Copenhagians don't think on anybody, but themselves so this shouldn't be surprising at all. (Yes I am Jutlander with capital J; why do you ask?)

but I guess it only relates to Malmø, not all of Skåne?
As far as I understood it would be the Øresund region; i.e a large part of Sjælland (if not all of it) and ~half of Skåne (approximately the old Malmøhus Len).

Reminds me of Nicolai Wammen rebranding Århus into Aarhus...
Yeah that was truly idiotic.
As was noted back then---and which I agreed with and still agrees with:
  • Opposite of what Wammen claimed it is not impossible to have å in urls/use it on the internet.
  • Having exotic letters will rather attract tourists than scare them away. (Wammen claimed it was detrimental to tourism to use å.
  • If foreigners don't know how to pronounce å, how can you then expect they will know how to pronounce aa? In fact they will be more likely to not say it right given how aa is a sound in e.g. German...

Oh and then a short while after renaming Århus (a renaming I don't follow and don't intend to, since it is pure stupidity) to Aarhus he decided that the new city part on the harbour was to be named Aarhus Ø... Because while foreigners cannot say å they of course can say ø... (And besides that using Århus Ø ruined the uniqueness we had with not having an eastern part and how you could make a joke telling non Århusians to look for x in Århus Ø---i.e. the sea).
but Skåne is de facto part of Sweden
Sure; doesn't mean you cannot tease them when possible.
and In more a supporter for a union rather than reclaiming it, working together would strengthen us and make it easier for all
We actually had a good discussion of a union in the Scandinavian subforum. And yes a union which came to be in the 1800s would have been really great. Also as discussed in that thread if a union ever came to be then the capital would obviously need to be somewhere which wasn't "tainted"; Gøteborg seemed like a good choice for that as it also would be central.
 
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Sure; though as everybody outside Copenhagen know Copenhagians don't think on anybody, but themselves so this shouldn't be surprising at all. (Yes I am Jutlander with capital J; why do you ask?)
Got the joke ;-)

Oh and then a short while after renaming Århus (a renaming I don't follow and don't intend to, since it is pure stupidity) to Aarhus he decided that the new city part on the harbour was to be named Aarhus Ø... Because while foreigners cannot say å they of course can say ø... (And besides that using Århus Ø ruined the uniqueness we had with not having an eastern part and how you could make a joke telling non Århusians to look for x in Århus Ø---i.e. the sea).
Didn´t think of that :p actually kinda hillarious... Also... Can´t really see what´s the difference on the names... Have not travelled much, but when I did, it was always funny how the map and the city I was going to was spelled the same, which made it kinda easy to know where I was and where I was going.

Been to Bosnia, had no trouble getting around and those letters... Are not spelled similar to ours...

Sure; doesn't mean you cannot tease them when possible.
Some are more sensitive about it than others... But it´s good scandinavian (at least danish) to laugh about such things... Namely how we lost that part and have lost most football matches really.. Handball... perhaps?

We actually had a good discussion of a union in the Scandinavian subforum. And yes a union which came to be in the 1800s would have been really great. Also as discussed in that thread if a union ever came to be then the capital would obviously need to be somewhere which wasn't "tainted"; Gøteborg seemed like a good choice for that as it also would be central.
Should go there and check it out then... Have no greater love for Cph and don´t see how it should be much greater than the others, sure it´s easy for outsiders, but place it where it´s easy for the citizens... Gøteborg is a good choice, don´t have any sentiments about it´s placement, what´s matters is the cooperation and legislative powers which I can easily access through this device and tv
 

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Of course the danes want to annex Eastern Denmark (as I call Skåne), it would give them access to Zlatan!
 

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Of course the danes want to annex Eastern Denmark (as I call Skåne), it would give them access to Zlatan!
You give far too much credit to proper Danes (Jutland), the part east of Denmark proper we are happy to give to Sweden :p it's only Copenhagens and our politicians, they won't be missed ;-)
 

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Isn't Jutland German?
How dare you! :) it's the last part of Denmark since those filthy Germans took Holstein... boy... did we lose a lot of land actually... :-S
 

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very easy, I do speak German and understand a bit of basic Swedish (if slowly spoken). But Danish sounds like a German dialect I don't understand. But I agree Sydslevsig should be under Scandinavian* rule.
 
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very easy, I do speak German and understand a bit of basic Swedish (if slowly spoken). But Danish sounds like a German dialect I don't understand. But I agree Sydslevsig should be under Scandinavian* rule.

Depends on where you heard it, the southern part of Denmark has a very distinct dialect that sounds very similar to an non-understandable German dialect. To be fair, Danes don't understand them at all either ;-) danish proper (rigsdansk) is quite similar to Swedish and Norwegian and its based on the latin system implemented in the Norse language :)

Sydslesvig would never be returned, don't even believe there's a majority of Danes there to make a vote decide :p
 

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Mostly during television series, so I guess it would be riksdansk. But It really does sound like German to me, but I can't understand it. I'm also used that in England they ask me if I'm German when speaking Dutch to my wife.
 

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Mostly during television series, so I guess it would be riksdansk. But It really does sound like German to me, but I can't understand it. I'm also used that in England they ask me if I'm German when speaking Dutch to my wife.

It's decided... everything sounds German >_<
 

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Now if you want a certain tag or a couple of tags to be added, what you should do is make a thread and gather as much information of it/them and post it all there. Unless we are talking islands, usually maps, and specially good maps in common languages help a lot.

This.

A few months ago I posted in the Suggestion forum about the Reddy dynasty of Andhra in India. I made sure to post a lot of information and links in why it should appear at the game's start, and discussed how it might affect the other nations in the region (especially Orissa, which actually owned the provinces at that point). Paradox (Trin I think) noticed and we had a discussion on the thread about it. Not long afterwards, Andhra was added to the game. So, if you want Paradox to consider a suggestion to add a new tag, gather as much info as you can, weed out any obviously biased sources, and post it in the Suggestions forum. There are no guarantees of course, but that would be the best way to bring tag ideas to Paradox's attention. (Hopefully my lobbying for the Merina Kingdom of Madagascar bears fruit as well! :) )
 
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Haven´t heard about that one, so had to do some quick reading... Seems odd to try to do this without agreeing in both countries, but seems like some officials are supporting it... Wouldn´t really change ownership, but the name... But dislike changing names in general, happened elsewhere in DK and it´s simply odd to do so even if the change is small.

But could see why some swedes dislike a land-grab like that :) though many danes do live there, the count as of 2015 is nearly 24.000, though most lives in Malmö for the ease of working in Cph. It still dwarfs the swedish inhabitants in whole Skåne
240.000 aren't all that many. And while the copenhagen area thing is the most recent it is far from the scaries comment made by elected oficialls in denmark in the last decade, with regards to skåne that is.

They mainly live in Malmø as Quaade mentions; also what rebranding of Øresund? That Greater Copenhagen thing which the mayor of Copenhagen (and pretty much nobody else) thinks is a great idea?
Yeah that was what I was refering to, but there has been several odd statements from danish officials the last few years with respect to skåne.

I am actually surprise you guys didn't got it back after WW2 since it was basically a German buffet lol
No borders changed in the west after ww2. The western allies finally learned their lesson (the story there is that some of the involved parties (mainly the US) wanted a lenient peace for germany after ww1 but france kind of overruled them). Stalin however was an expansionistic asshole so he didn't get with the program.
 
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240.000 aren't all that many. And while the copenhagen area thing is the most recent it is far from the scaries comment made by elected oficialls in denmark in the last decade, with regards to skåne that is.


Yeah that was what I was refering to, but there has been several odd statements from danish officials the last few years with respect to skåne.


No borders changed in the west after ww2. The western allies finally learned their lesson (the story there is that some of the involved parties (mainly the US) wanted a lenient peace for germany after ww1 but france kind of overruled them). Stalin however was an expansionistic asshole so he didn't get with the program.
Well I sympathize with Germany for WW1, but for WW2 they should feel lucky they only lost half the country.
Also after further research Denmark DID got some land back after WW1 :p
 
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Yeah that was what I was refering to, but there has been several odd statements from danish officials the last few years with respect to skåne.
Malmø is one thing, and again I dislike changing names without any thoughts or discussions first, but Skåne is another!? It´s a huge difference... Sigh...
240.000 aren't all that many. And while the copenhagen area thing is the most recent it is far from the scaries comment made by elected oficialls in denmark in the last decade, with regards to skåne that is.
Well... I´m sure you have your nut-job officials over there, if not... I´m sure you can borrow a few of ours ;-)
No borders changed in the west after ww2. The western allies finally learned their lesson (the story there is that some of the involved parties (mainly the US) wanted a lenient peace for germany after ww1 but france kind of overruled them). Stalin however was an expansionistic asshole so he didn't get with the program.
Nor shouls they, the war was about getting back to status quo, since Skåne had been swedish for... is it 400 years? there was no reason to discuss it either...

Now it´s better to make a union and make it a common land, going to war for it... Seems senseless :)
Well I sympathize with Germany for WW1, but for WW2 they should feel lucky they only lost half the country.
Also after further research Denmark DID got some land back after WW1 :p
Denmark did get some land after WW1, not as much had they had lost to Prussia since Slesvig-Holstein were part of Denmark. And we didn´t really "get" it, there were a vote in that part, in both counties where one voted for Denmark and the other Germany. So yes, we did get some back but not directly due to the war :)