How does Paradox decides which countries are added to the game?

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In cases like Estonia it's because we want all cultures present in owned provinces to have revolter tags.

And Estonian cores in 1444 are there because reasons.
 
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And Estonian cores in 1444 are there because reasons.
To be fair, the cores for ahistorical revolter tags(e.g. Sapmi, Estonia, probably Nyitra in the future) should either be in every province of their culture from the beginning or none of the tags should have the cores until the revolt fires. I think I'm more for the first alternative as it provides much more diversity among playthroughs.
 
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Wiz is being very stingy and misleading with info. Just like a Cavan man. They always pretend to be from Sligo to avoid the shame.
Earldom of Breifne confirmed!
 

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Earldom of Larne? Did Scotland gain a new province?

You are so evil @Wiz.

Oh gg for Iceland and the Faroese!
 

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and the Faroese!

Faroese what? It is annexed by Sweden because he wanted create Iceland

And also the Scottish province is true. He splitted Higland into 2 provinces.
 

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To be fair, the cores for ahistorical revolter tags(e.g. Sapmi, Estonia, probably Nyitra in the future) should either be in every province of their culture from the beginning or none of the tags should have the cores until the revolt fires. I think I'm more for the first alternative as it provides much more diversity among playthroughs.

My go-to strategy to smash the Commonwealth is to make them release Lithuania. Before the Baltic tags were added, this meant that rebels perpetually controlled Estonia and Latvia because there was no tags for them to revolt to.
 
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@Wiz i undercovered you!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZAkZiyWMAAGMOV.png:large JUST LOOK AT THAT THING AT THE RIGHT FROM TYRONE white irish Earldom i like it :D
Also Scottish province borders were adjusted. I think that Highlands was split.

I'm not convinced about Norway becoming Iceland if they lose the continent being a good thing, as that would mean that Norwegian cores in lost Norway would get replaced with Icelandish ones.
 

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Also Scottish province borders were adjusted. I think that Highlands was split.

I'm not convinced about Norway becoming Iceland if they lose the continent being a good thing, as that would mean that Norwegian cores in lost Norway would get replaced with Icelandish ones.
I think its strictly making Iceland as Norway-Denmark? Like England can make Northumbria, but it never really would do so.
Also yeah, new Highland province (hopefully for Gaelic culture) and what looks like Ulster split in half? My heart skipped a beat.

Edit: what will the new province be called? I'm thinking Sutherlnad-Caithness-Ross for the Northern part, and Argyll-Inverness-Moray for southern highlands.
 

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Edit: what will the new province be called? I'm thinking Sutherlnad-Caithness-Ross for the Northern part, and Argyll-Inverness-Moray for southern highlands.
Norther Highlands and Southern Highlands.
 

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"The Jersey Doomsday Book was compiled in 1331. Syvret and Stevens (1998) suggest that there were at least 2,000 houses, and with an average of six persons to a house, at least 12,000 people"

"The first thing that would surprise us about those towns would be their small size. At the time of the Domesday Book in 1086 London had a population of about 18,000. By the 14th century it rose to about 45,000. Other towns were much smaller. York may have had a population of about 13,000 by 1400"

I was going to put something here about the population of iceland, but it was too insigificant for anyone to actively measure at the start of EUIV's timeline.

As I said before, the process for Paradox to add countries and/or provinces can only be an arbitrary one. If it were done by population, Jersey would actually be around somewhere in the top 200 for the timeline start, if it's by wealth, Jersey would likely be even higher especially being a holiday home for active and exiled nobility.

It's disappointing, but all you can do is constantly pester and/or ask for provinces and countries to be included if they aren't already. Sadly, custom nations don't fix my problem because the land itself simply doesn't exist. You can at least make a custom nation Iceland and play it.
 
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By the way, the estimated population at the timeline start was about 4-6 million. By this reasoning, Jersey had about 0.25% of the world population (using 4 million as the estimate). Or basically, the population of 1 province if the game had 400 such provinces.

What? Ming alone had more than 4-6 million people. France alone, more than that number too. England alone, not far from the 4 million as your estimate. Are you really talking about world population or English population?
 

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What? Ming alone had more than 4-6 million people. France alone, more than that number too. England alone, not far from the 4 million as your estimate. Are you really talking about world population or English population?

It was an error on the source I was refering to, it refers to the Estimated English population but it said "world population" for whatever reason. Which is why I deleted it.

This is better:

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I was going to put something here about the population of iceland, but it was too insigificant for anyone to actively measure at the start of EUIV's timeline.

The Icelandic population remained relatively unchanged from the middle ages until the 19th century, usually around 50-60,000 people, one fifth of Norway during the middle ages but unlike Iceland Norway's population didn't remain static throughout the period. According to your numbers that's four or five times that of Jersey at the time.

Iceland was not as insignificant as you may think. The Hanseatic league, the king of England and the king of Denmark all had considerable disputes over trading rights with Iceland. At its height the Icelandic trade was about 1% of total English trade and about 100 ships sailed to Iceland from England every year. The Anglo-Hanseatic war of 1468 was for example was fought partly over trading with Iceland, the Faroe Islands and Northern Norway.

Interestingly enough Iceland also has the first recorded complete census of any country in the world with the census of 1703 which counted around 50,000 people.
 
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