There is no such thing as Germany. There are the countries German Reich and German Republic, among others like the Socialist Republic of Germany. “Germany” is a collection of countries that one or more may exist at any time. During the game, after the successful staging of the coup, both countries existed and fought each other in a civil war. The peace conference exiled German Reich (which still exists, but to where I have no idea, ratlined somewhere in South America maybe if the game obeys history?) and assigned all or most provinces to German Republic. Similar with “Italy”. German Reich was defeated in game terms. Whether or not German Reich could be released again in a future war, I don’t know (but a cool idea, Hitler and friends fighting for Uruguay).
That much I seem to understand.
The problem as I’ve stated too many times (read the original post again if you must) is that I think that that peace conference outcome could never happen as it did in my game, regardless if there was a civil war. And I’m still waiting for a straightforward answer.
I, playing as Dominion of Canada staged the coup to examine the effects of ending the war faster (mind you I did much the same thing playing France in another game).
In my limited understanding of the historical period, I can’t see how the allies would not give France back all its core provinces (including one now in German Republic) and colonies. German Republic and Republican Italy would or should get at most only its own core provinces. Assuming Soviet Union is satisfied with its take (because of the civil war, Soviet Union was hardly touched by German Reich), at least the western provinces that are core to Polish Republic would be released. Some combination of Austria, Upper Austria and Lower Austria would very likely be released with democratic ideologies. I can’t see how Slovak Republic would not be released. The one province of Lithuania possessed by German Republic would become democratic Republic of Lithuania. Ethiopia and Kingdom of Libya would be released from former Italy.
Why would the allies initiate civil wars for Germany and Italy only for them to retain half of continental Western Europe? That picture can’t look right.
At least have it in the game a message to the player detailing the agreement or motivation of the coup negotiation. What are the German Republic and Republican Italy break-away countries fighting for? To stop a destructive world war or just replace Hitler and Mussolini with new tyrannical regimes ala democratic ideology (not unlike what United Kingdom, France and to a lesser extent United States are already). If the latter is the case, and maybe I wasn’t seeing that, then perhaps the peace conference outcome is not that unbelievable after all. However, I can’t see a German or Italian civil war during that period would be anything else but for the break-away countries to eventually end all hostilities and preventing continental Europe becoming a wasteland as really what happened, and thus would be happy to release their colonies and occupied provinces to their rightful owners.
Granted, the World Tension is accurately still 100%, but that may be because war is still on with Japan. And yes, my Dominion of Canada did eventually successfully stage a coup there too. And yes, if it’s anything like what happened in my game as France, much of fascist Japan’s possessions will be transferred to democratic State of Japan after that peace conference. It stinks, but don’t tell that to the comfort women.