how do the crusade expectations work?

[Ebenweb]

"deus vult" was just declared and there's a "crusades expectation" of -.01 in my piety icon.

i'm currently at war with a small muslim country.

what are the "expectations" and when do they change?

 

[TempestDK]

As far as I remember, the crusade expectation, is a way to show that the Pope expects you to go crusading. As long as the Crusade is running, you will get the piety loss. I think it increases with time.

The only way to balance it out would be to conquer some muslim/pagan territory which yields piety ... or to hand out bishoprics.

Actually being at war with the muslims doesn't change the expectations penalty. I think the mechanics were made so you would "have" to go and actually fight (and win) in the infidel lands.

I am not sure if the piety bonus for beating infidels is higher during the Crusade.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

The rule is that the bigger you are the higher the piety-loss because of crusade-expectations is. Also if your ruler has the crusader trait then the piety-penalty will be higher.

No, matter what you do you will still have the penalty. But the this penalty can be off-set by

1. Increase church donations
2. Building religious buildings, which give a one-time bonus and monthly-piety. Though the last point isn't listed in the tooltip.
3. Having non-christian provinces in your demesne also lowers the penalty
4. Creating bishops, give a one-time piety bonus
5. Events which give one-titme piety bonuses
6. There are also buildings (moneylenders) which give you a monthly piety-penalty, this penalty isn't shown in a tooltip.

 

[The Swert]

What size do you need to be to suffer the penalty? I've got a duchy and suffered 0 piety loss even though my duke had the crusader trait and was catholic.

 

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You don't get crusade expectations if you own non-Christian provinces.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

You don't get crusade expectations if you own non-Christian provinces.

You get lower crusade expectations, the piety-penalty will still be there

 

[vwclaymore]

If one of my vassals has non-Christian provinces will that reduce the piety penalty?

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

If one of my vassals has non-Christian provinces will that reduce the piety penalty?

No, only his piety-penalty

 

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3. Having non-christian provinces in your demesne also lowers the penalty

Is this true for orthodox provinces in your demesne?

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

Is this true for orthodox provinces in your demesne?

No, only non-christian ones, so Muslims and Pagans