How do I move excess food from one planet to the one with a shortage?
- Thread starter xittix
- Start date
-
We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.
Ahhh ok thanks for the reply! I was wondering what I was missing.
It's a shame such a thing was missed. Here's hoping for a fix!
It's a shame such a thing was missed. Here's hoping for a fix!
- 3
- 2
It's an intentional design decision.
There is no universe in which it is cost effective to resolve a food shortage equivalent to 1 billion people worth of consumption by shipping from somewhere else. (Each -1 food of shortage represents roughly enough for 1 billion people.)
If your planet has a shortage you need to upgrade or build more food structures.
There is no universe in which it is cost effective to resolve a food shortage equivalent to 1 billion people worth of consumption by shipping from somewhere else. (Each -1 food of shortage represents roughly enough for 1 billion people.)
If your planet has a shortage you need to upgrade or build more food structures.
- 39
- 24
- 1
You don't ship food in this game. That was a Master of Orion thing.
Here, the closest you can come is to relocate people away from the food shortage or get a temporary boost to food production using an edict.
Here, the closest you can come is to relocate people away from the food shortage or get a temporary boost to food production using an edict.
- 8
- 2
Yes as others have mentioned, this is not a bug or something they 'missed'. They intentionally wanted to keep food a local resource.
It means you don't snowball out of control (especially over the AI) with one massive food producing colony which ships food to all your other colonies. Thus Colonisation is still an investment due to the time it takes pops to grow.
It means you don't snowball out of control (especially over the AI) with one massive food producing colony which ships food to all your other colonies. Thus Colonisation is still an investment due to the time it takes pops to grow.
- 12
- 5
Can you imagine how many shipping containers it would take to feed 1 billion mouths even for a week!?
- 8
- 3
Even if I can't imagine, I put that 1 billion people on a ship in the middle of no where for 20 years and they didn't die of starvation.....so I assume any kind of physical constraints are not a concern.
- 26
- 1
Maybe they were frozen? Also I believe they are only about 300 or 500 million when you put them on their colony ship.
- 3
So each pop represent one billion ? damn those guys breed like bacterias.
- 7
When your colony first establishes the Pop is basically brand new and has to grow, it's only a few thousand people really.
And yeah they breed like bacteria.
I like to think of the early pop growth as being supplemented by 'minor migration' (migration less than a whole Pop) for rp purposes, which makes the growth balance feel a little less weird between new colonies and developed worlds.- 3
The POP is not counted.
For some races its a million, for some- a single super-mushroom.
But yes, it is a lot of power.
- 4
But they don't represent 1 billion. They represent what you want them to. For example I had an old birds game, to me they represented a few million per pop as they were slow breeders and that's how I RPed it. No where have the devs ever said (that I've seen at least) what size a pop is.
Also think how much food is moved around today on earth. I set no reason that in the future with ftl there wouldn't be the same thing happening.
- 17
- 1
It's certainly possible to move food from orbit down to the planet, because of the Orbital Hydroponics Farm starport module, so in theory, you could have ships bringing food to the starport, to distribute onto the planet. (I'm not sure on the mechanics of moving stuff down to the planet - is there a space elevator ? or surface-to-orbit shuttles ?)
However, consider the size of ships needed, the number of ships needed, and the frequency. Those cargo ships aren't free.
Say a ship can carry 3 food. You'd need 12 of them arriving each year, to supply food for 3 pops. What's the maintenance cost of those ships ? They'd have to be very much cheaper than a planetary hydroponics dome, in order to make sense ingame.
It would alter space strategy, by providing something to attack and defend, which might be interesting for some players. But the management of it would be a bit fiddly, I think ?
However, consider the size of ships needed, the number of ships needed, and the frequency. Those cargo ships aren't free.
Say a ship can carry 3 food. You'd need 12 of them arriving each year, to supply food for 3 pops. What's the maintenance cost of those ships ? They'd have to be very much cheaper than a planetary hydroponics dome, in order to make sense ingame.
It would alter space strategy, by providing something to attack and defend, which might be interesting for some players. But the management of it would be a bit fiddly, I think ?
- 3
.png){kind=avatar}
Less than we use for the minerals, energy, and whatever you put research into.
- 14
- 1
And yet the cargo ships are free for all the other resources we are shipping around. And they're obviously getting all those heavy metals into orbit to build the swarms of corvettes, so food shouldn't be any different a problem.
- 12
- 2
Guys, it's a game mechanic by design. It matters not if it is or isn't feasible.
- 11
- 3
yes, but it would be less annoying, if there was actually a use for that planet that the sector governor decided needed hydroponics farms on every tile, that now has a +59 food surplus :|
- 6
- 5
What a limited way of thinking. Following this logic we should have never established international trade and each country/continent should form some kind of closed entity. There is no reason why food could not be shipped between systems in the future. In the end it's the same as provinces/countries, just on global scale. You don't seem to be thinking that space administration, warfare and energy/mineral production on global scale isn't cost effectie. Sitting in Europe I enjoy fruits from Asia and South America, how can that be?
- 12
- 4
If food was decoupled from pop growth speed and functioned solely as a cap on max population it'd be alright I think. The snowballing could be countered by making shipping food cost minerals or energy.
I'd think that there would be more strategic depth if there was food shipments. Warfare can mean going for your opponent's breadbaskets or food transport too in an attempt to starve them into submission, instead of just attacking his industrial base. There is plenty of flavor too in making planets a little more unique: "Zorb IV is an agriworld versus Zorb IV being much the same as every other world, except that it has one more tile."
Slightly off topic, I'm hoping for eventually being able to make a Coruscant-style ecumenopolis (ignoring realism... the shit that went on in that last discussion pre-release was painful), which would mean that shipping food will be a necessity.
- 5
- 1