Making them implode means not having to wait out enough truces to eat several 100% warscore worth of land. 10 nations that can be annexed or subjugated in a single war or two each is much quicker to take and means facing smaller armies at a time and less need to siege down strong forts more than once. Just because you can do it one way doesn't mean there aren't any stronger options. Even if you won't choke on Ming as-is, smaller morsels can be much tastier.Just eat them. Waste of time lowering mandate when you can already kill them.
Usually I have other wars to do in between Ming so no lost time for me.Making them implode means not having to wait out enough truces to eat several 100% warscore worth of land. 10 nations that can be annexed or subjugated in a single war or two each is much quicker to take and means facing smaller armies at a time and less need to siege down strong forts more than once. Just because you can do it one way doesn't mean there aren't any stronger options. Even if you won't choke on Ming as-is, smaller morsels can be much tastier.
My plan wasn't to lower their mandate (that's just a side benefit speeding things up) but to make them break to separatists and get into a bankruptcy spiral that the rump state can never recover from.
Unless he's that certain streamer who did Mughal WC world record, i also have no idea...I find it very odd how you are this strong with Mughals in 1562 and yet are asking how to do a Ming explosion.
Anyway, occupy all of Ming's provinces so they will accumulate WE and devastation (scorch earth if you wish). In the peace deal ask only for money, war rep and transfer trade.