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I started a game (VH/F) as Canada and by December of 1941 Britain and the U.S. had taken over Vichy, the USSR beat the Germans back to Poland, and me and my commonwealth allies (I took military control over them) had annexed Italy. Things were going well until I started fighting some Germans. The U.K. had taken the Italian province bordering Germany (can't remember the name) so I invaded through Denmark with 40 commonwealth divisions. The AI has an annoying tendancy to ignore other AI countries and go straight for the human player so a few days later the Germans pulled 40 divisions away from their eastern front and sent them to Denmark. It took about 2 of my troops to equal one of theirs, but that wasn't what I was worried about. They mercilessly bombarded me with giant 20+ stacks of tac and dive bombers. The second I ordered an offensive, the Germans would send every single plane the had to bomb the crap out of me. My org never got past 10 due to this tac bombing so I never gained any ground (meanwhile the Germans left only 20 divisions guarding Berlin and it was taken by the Soviets). I had 12 basic interceptors sitting in Canada, but I had no way of getting them to Europe without building carriers. I tried going through Iceland and Greenland, but Greenland alone is around 1300 km away while my fighters have a max range of 300.
 

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Yep I hate when the AI gives you that "extra" attention, but to get those fighers over, you say that the New Foundland to Greenland to Iceland to England didnt work? I'm guessing you have primitive fighters, and alas carriers do come in handy now. Another thing, have you ever tried strategically redeploying? its worth a shot.
 

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Mr.G 24 said:
Yep I hate when the AI gives you that "extra" attention, but to get those fighers over, you say that the New Foundland to Greenland to Iceland to England didnt work? I'm guessing you have primitive fighters, and alas carriers do come in handy now. Another thing, have you ever tried strategically redeploying? its worth a shot.

To strategically redeploy, you have to own ground or those fighters had to of been removed from that area.
 

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I had the same problem with my american interceptors . I used the carrier Yorktown for transporting. Build a carrier . A canadian carrier would be cool

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I don't have my HOI on this computer so I might get the province names spelled incorrectly. Get military access from Brazil...or if you don't mind cheating, just fly them through. The eastern most province is Recife and you should be able to make it to Africa and on to Europe. I am fairly certain this works as I have gotten Brazil's fighter over to Africa and I don't think I had improved them yet. Anyway I know I have flown fighters from Brazil to Africa.
 

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Ludeke said:
I don't have my HOI on this computer so I might get the province names spelled incorrectly. Get military access from Brazil...or if you don't mind cheating, just fly them through. The eastern most province is Recife and you should be able to make it to Africa and on to Europe. I am fairly certain this works as I have gotten Brazil's fighter over to Africa and I don't think I had improved them yet. Anyway I know I have flown fighters from Brazil to Africa.

If this works then you hsould try to get to the Soviet airspace because the AA and rondom German Fighter swill eat your fighters up real quick.
 

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It's a shame you can't crate aircraft and deliver them by plain ole transport ships.
 

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If you control the UK navy, they have carriers. Get the carriers over to Canada. Then move them out into a seazone and check the range with your fighters. Move the carriers far enough for one 300 mile jump. Leave one carrier there.

Then move a second carrier the same way and combine the islands with the UK carriers to set up a link that can reach England. You might have to get all the fighters first to Iceland and then set up two carriers for a hop to England. Treat the carriers as a movable island and you will be fine.

Find a safe place to get their org back up and you should be o.k.
 

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The other solution is to loan your fighters as expeditionary forces to the UK. When you do this the UK will be able to ignore the max range (as the AI does) and fly your fighters to wherever it wants them. Of course it might take them a while to move them to a convenient location for you, but they are likely to do it eventually.
 

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Sgt. Bulldog said:
Nice workaround. Perhaps if you loan them those fighters and then take military control over England, you can control them directly? Or does the endless range ability evaporate if you take military control (I never use it).

You wouldn't need to take military control of England - you can just recall your expeditionary forces whenever you like.

Hopefully expeditionary forces will recieve a workover for HoI 2. Right now it's difficult to not exploit it however it is used.
 

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Sgt. Bulldog said:
Nice workaround. Perhaps if you loan them those fighters and then take military control over England, you can control them directly? Or does the endless range ability evaporate if you take military control (I never use it).
Range limitations depends on who gives the orders. If you lend a fighter unit to the UK, then the AI can fly it across, while you can still only give it short flight orders.
 

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Lot of good ideas here. Another option would be for Canada to annex some territory in Europe or Africa. Maybe attack Ireland or possibly Monrovia? Once territory is annexed you can start new units there.

Not sure if that kind of DoW is possible for Canada, and it certainly would be more expensive than building a single carrier. On the otherhand, you could get the Irish into playing hockey, so it's a tough call.