How do I deal with rebels in a WC

[PhoenixG]

As Ottomans, you should aim to conquer India ASAP, make into TCs, and spam manus in every province with a decent trade good. This should basically solve your money problems. You need a lot of money in the late game. Knowing how to get rich is currently one of the most important things to know for a WC imo.

He doesn't have the DLC that enable TC.
While going India first is still a solid route (better than going head first into europe), the value is a lot worse.

 

[Sfan]

I agree with money as unlimited, but I never hit the bottom of my manpower pool and rarely, but sometimes, hit the merc cap without merc cannons so I don't see the point of merc cannons. Oh well, it works for both of us.

 

[Sfan]

Here it is, I did not even try to go for it to prove a point. I just hit it so often. 110 is so small , despite me having admin. I can't even get my 6 20-0-20 stacks as I wanted. The game prevents me from using optimal stacks.

I don't see how you can get even half of mercs cannon, unless you always take quantity or simply don't use your FL (which is safe lategame when you have 1 million FL, but is a bit problematic early-mid game when your FL is still relatively small). It's not about the money, I built all manufactories possible and have 17k, it's just this cap...

 

[misiceman]

Here it is, I did not even try to go for it to prove a point. I just hit it so often. 110 is so small , despite me having admin. I can't even get my 6 20-0-20 stacks as I wanted. The game prevents me from using optimal stacks.

I don't see how you can get even half of mercs cannon, unless you always take quantity or simply don't use your FL (which is safe lategame when you have 1 million FL, but is a bit problematic early-mid game when your FL is still relatively small). It's not about the money, I built all manufactories possible and have 17k, it's just this cap...

build +FL buildings in provinces you don't care about. There is no point hording money in a WC. A warchest sure but 17k..... spend it on buildings. +FL will raise your FL and increase your available mercs (% of FL). In like a couple years you can probably up your base FL by about 80-85 which should be another 20-25 mercs. Expensive but if your just hording money...(especially if you can gain that much money quickly and keep it going till you have either enough land or enough troops to ignore it).

 

[Ultima_Ratio]

Building FL buildings is not an answer since you'll always build up to forcelimit, and you hit the merc cap anyway. And I don't see much reason to use merc cannons either, they don't take casualties in battle and attrition shouldn't bother you unless your siege-strategy is to park oversized stacks to take the full 5%/month.

 

[Sfan]

Exactly as he said. I have FL buildings, if I had more I would just need more mercs and that wouldn't solve the issue.

And that's not a warchest, that's to pay the 20000 debt my vassals can create at any moment

 

[Laurent1944]

Colonial nations also help a lot with FL, giving nice bonuses combined with influence idea (+100% for FL given by vassals). If you don't want to take Exploration Ideas, try to invade and eliminate the European home of a colonizer, like Portugal (that has a small European country compared to its Empire in most games)

 

[Sfan]

You don't get it, it's not that my FL is too small. It's that the merc cap is too small to go full merc infantry with 20/0/20 (or 40/0/40) stacks if you go at FL and don't have quantity, which is why I reacted to people who said they used merc cannons. I'm not saying I can't win my wars or deal with my rebels, I usually have no issues with that, I'm just wondering how people can use full merc infantry and merc cannons while whenever I play the game, I can't even use full merc infantry due to a hard cap, a game rule that applies to everyone afaik.

 

[bbqftw]

good thing professionalism helps out with that

its hard to evaluate quantity in 1.23 because right now it has a lot of hidden power due to inf/cav backline damage

 

[Adonnus]

Here it is, I did not even try to go for it to prove a point. I just hit it so often. 110 is so small , despite me having admin. I can't even get my 6 20-0-20 stacks as I wanted. The game prevents me from using optimal stacks.

I don't see how you can get even half of mercs cannon, unless you always take quantity or simply don't use your FL (which is safe lategame when you have 1 million FL, but is a bit problematic early-mid game when your FL is still relatively small). It's not about the money, I built all manufactories possible and have 17k, it's just this cap...

Where is the money coming from? This is the one question that I haven't found answered

 

[Sfan]

It's fair to say I am pretty good on the economic front, and that DLCs help tremendously. I develop my goldmines and abuse Trade Companies and estates, for instance. Else it's proper building prioritization and trade understanding.