How did your country come into existence?

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In the great open lands of Central Asia there lived a nomadic tribe. This tribe herded live stock and were excellent blacksmiths and horsemen. After terrible wars with the Chinese and Mongols they seeked new land. There, right in the middle of Altai Mountains they found a peaceful valley.

1000s of years passed. The tribe grew in numbers and the day came when they could not fit in the valley. The head of the tribe sent horsemen in four directions to find a way out. But since nobody had ventured out in all these years, they could not find any an opening.

Time passed and the valley could not provide the people. Just as all hope was lost one horseman, still loking for a way out, found a grey wolf was following him. He was frightened but the wolf did not do anything harmful. The horseman came back to the tribe and told everthing to the khan.

The khan saw the grey wolf, and understood that he was leading the way. So he ordered the whole tribe to start following the wolf. They did and eventually the wolf took them between two mountains. However the pass was blocked by a massive iron block.

So the people built a fire that the earth has never seen or will ever see. The flames reached the tops of the mountains and slowly started to melt the iron away. When the fire died they were overjoyed to see the mountain pass open.

The tribe divided into four. One headed North, one headed South, one headed East and one headed West. An that, my firends, is the story of Turks...

 

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Because the oldest emblem of Poland was a chicken ...

Kasperus... objective and funny as usuall...

France has got a rooster as an emblem.

We have got an eagle (and its shape and appearance were changing (and still are changing) during all the Poland's life. Yes, at first it was very similar to chicken, but you must forgive our ancestors, their were savages (as we are nowadays... ).

 

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Originally posted by celedhring
The Count of Barcelona Guifré el Pilós set then his aims into obtain autonomy from the Frank King

For those of you that have a less than complete knowlegde of Catalan his name is rendered in English as Wilfred the Hairy - a really tough bastard ...

 

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Once upon a time norway were many small states. In one of them the king, harald, met this beautiful girl and asked her to mary him. She said no, because she didn't want a man who only controled a little state. Then Harald said that he would conquer all of Norway and he sworn that he would not cut his hair or wash himself until he was king of all of Norway, so he gathered his army an after some years he controled whole Norway. Then he married the chick and took a nice hot bath (if possible).


This is not myth, but a true story. He were called Harald Hair-something

 

[Kasperus]

Originally posted by Waltan


Kasperus... objective and funny as usuall...

Wow, It sounds almost like a compliment

 

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Indeed it is a compliment... Trust me...

 

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Originally posted by mordomakil
...This is not myth, but a true story. He were called Harald Hair-something

Haral Hårfagre I asume? that is Harald Fairhair in english i belive.

 

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Originally posted by celedhring


What are the effects of this event???

+1 Stability IIRC

 

[Intosh]

Hi,


I don't remember in France a special story or a folklore about the foundation of France.

But in school, it look at something like that :


"In a country called "Gaule" lived a people called "les Gaulois", they were tall, blond, had long hairs, mustaches, braid and winged helm.

(remember if you know them, Asterix and Obelix)


They lived in villages, were good pesants and artisans. Villages forming clan, forming tribe, who were divided never forming a united nation, always at war between themselves. They were courageous and great warriors, very prompt to anger, quarrelsome, fearing only the day when the sky will fell on their heads.

One day, the Romans invaded the Gaule, and Gaulois offered little resistance as they were divided and some of them, were even allied with the romans.

But, one man, Vercingetorix united all the Gaulois and organised a great uprising against the Romans. The Romans were defeated at Gergovie, and were amazed by the scorched earth strategy used by Vercingetorix. But at the end, they succeded by in a town called Alesia and Vercingetorix was trapped. The Romans builded a double line of fortifications against the Gaulois of Alesia and against the great army coming to Alesia help.

A great battle happened, but the Romans won with German cavalry help, and Vercingetorix was forced to surrender.

After the victory, the Romans annexed the "Gaule" into their empire, and generation after generation, the Gaulois and the Romans mixed forming a new culture "the Gallo-Roman civilisation".

At the end of the Roman Empire, came the time of great invasions, a lot of things happened, but in the end, a barbarious warrior chieftain called Clovis, was baptized and made king by the Pope, and he became the first king of the territory called France, because of the name of the Germanic tribe, the Franks.

If you want to know how French today see their Gaulois ancestors, read a "Asterix and Obelix" comics.

Bye,

 

[PMLF]

Brazil was inhabited until 1530 by peacefull Native Indian tribes like the Jê, the Tupis and the Guranis. In 1500 Portugal officially discovered Brazil. Officially because Portuguese ships navigated Brazilian Coast since two or three years before that.

Between 1500 and 1530, Portugal explorated Pau-Brasil (I don't know the English name for that, but this some king of wood).

In 1530, Portugal decided to colonize Brazil to keep the land as Franch pirates were exloring pau-brasil without Portuguese permission.

Between 1530 and 1808, Brazil was a Portuguese colony. The fist capital city in Brazil was Salvador. Rio de Janeiro became the Capital city during the 1700s, because of its proximity with Minas
Gerais gold mines.

In 1808, after Napoleonic invasion on Portugal, Portuguese Royal Family left Portugal to live in Brazil. Here in Brazil Dom João VI, Portuguese King, promoted Brazil to an United Kingdom with Portugal.

In 1822, to awoid the division of Brazil in many states like what happended to the Spanish colonies he permitted Brazil to become Independent. His son, Dom Pedro, was the king.

 

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According to a guy in another forum..
Sweden came to because a guy who liked snow made a nation up here

Btw.. Are there really any records on how it was "founded"?
Ive heard there were two nations.. Svealand and Götaland.
And they united or something..

bah.. Someone explain..

 

[Hamilcar]

In Switzerland, the Helvets were a Celtic (or something like that) tripe that worshipped to a deity called ... drum roll ...H elvetia!

Then Julius Caesar decided to conquer the Gauls and Switzerland was in the way, so he conquered the Helvets.

The Helvets, being patient people, took to saving change and makign cheese and got rich while they gleefully watched as the Romans invented vomitoriums and finally Julius Caesar's successor Romulus Augustulus got knocked off the throne.

But then came the big evil Holy Roman Empire, which, as everyone knows, was neither Holy, nor Romand, nor an Empire. Actually, it was really the Austrians.

And one day, a fictional character called Willhelm Tell came along and refused to bow to his feudal lord and so got into a big mess. His friends met behind a small hut like Sixth Formers to smoke and created <gashp> an alliance agains the evil Austrian Emperor, who, by the way, was kind of mad.

So the fictonal character caused a mess and an apple, a boy, and a cross-bow and a brat got famous (its all propaganda!). Meanwhile, anoterh Swiss was working hard and assassinated the evil Austrian emperor and his insane wife gave the Swiss autonomy.

Later, the Evil Emperors tried to get Switzerland back, but we threw rocks at them. To take revenge, the Swiss invented the Reformation (not really) and democracy (for everyone - woohoo -except of course women, children, foreigners, imbeciles, drunkyards and other indecent people)

So thats how!

 

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for those who still don`t get it: Lech didn`t have to go that far in seach of a nest

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Do you know what a legend is??? Do you??? I don't tkink so...

For those who still don't gest... ble,ble,ble... That's a LEGEND (when something is the truth for certain then we name it a history.

Surprised???

 

[Kasperus]

Originally posted by Waltan
- by Kasperus

Do you know what a legend is??? Do you??? I don't tkink so...

For those who still don't gest... ble,ble,ble... That's a LEGEND (when something is the truth for certain then we name it a history.

Surprised???

Are we a bit itchy today? Perhaps you did not understand my post?

 

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My new favorite is the Swiss history one. "Threw rocks at them" hehehe.
Thanks Hamilcar10!

O.

 

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Once upon a time some pious, decent, hardworking freemen, opressed religiously, socially and economically by evil entitities calling themselves aristocracy heard of a land across the sea. This land was the new land of milk and honey. The pious decent, hardworking freemen decided to leave their brutal oppressors behind and sail for this land across the sea.
They all piled in a ship called the Mayflower which was held in God's hand all the way across the water until he set them down on a rock. Next to this rock was a hill and there they built God's city.
God sent them a slave people to feed them and that first year they celebrated by giving a thanks and feast. The slave people all died of a cold, though, so these pious, decent, hardworking freemen asked God to provide them with another slave people. This God did.
And the pious, decent, hardworking freemen built several colonies with the help of their godgiven slaves.
Soon though, the brutal oppressors saw that these pious, decent, hardworking freemen drank a beverage called coffee. The brutal oppressors drank only a beverage called tea. The brutal oppressors tried to force the pious, decent, hardworking freemen to drink tea.
They were unhappy.
They turned to God and said, "Oh Lord, is there hypocricy in thy site if we chose to declare that all men are created equal, but we are allowed to keep our slave people?"
God was silent on this matter so the pious, decent, hardworking freemen interpreted this silence as consent. They found the most honest man in the world, a man nearly equal to Jesus in stature and sanctity, a man named George Washington. George Washington gathered an army of pious, decent, hardworking freemen who spent a winter in a valley, like the Christ spent 40 days in a desert. After the winter, George Washington walked on water across a river called the Patomic and slew the brutal oppressors with nothing but a set of false teeth and created a new nation.

 

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Lessee

George Washington cut down his father's cherry tree, and then told his father about it, because of course he was so honest, he could never tell a lie. *Fast forward to the 1760's.* The Brits have imposed nasty trade barriers on our population, and what's more, the mean old Brits said we couldn't steal any more Amerindian land. The never of those people!

So we declared independence from their tyranny. So we set forth in creating a free state. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Except for slaves. But we have a nice justification for slaves, see they aren't people, but property. Except for counting the population, in which they're 3/5 of a person. Yep, we sure were successful in abolishing feudalism.

We also created this nice little thing called the Bill of Rights. It enumerates certain rights which the federal gov't cannot violate. But not state governments, they can do whatever they like. For example, freedom of speech. So the federal gov't in the spirit of liberty passed the Alien and Sedition Acts, not even a decade after the Bill of Rights was passed. So, the federal government started locking up unpatriotic wrong-thinking people. But that's Constitutional because it's justified by British common law. What's more, we forgot to give the power of judicial review to the Supreme Court in the Constitution. D'oh!

The Constitution also enumerates the rights federal government have which are necessary for a free state. For example, the right to raise protective tariffs. It doesn't matter that most people in the country relied on agriculture to make a living. Rich industrialists have the god-ordained right to be subsidized, dammit!

Hmm... this is turning into a rant. I'll stop here.

 

[Aetius]

On France

I remember a legend/fact that Dagobert or Clovis were decendants of Maria Magdalena. Anyone know the details?

 

[Pontiac]

The creation of Japan

Two young gods, Izanagi and his female companion Izanami, stood upon the heavenly bridge that spanned the unorganized chaos. Izanagi took his spear and thrust it into the unformed matter. He then began a great swirling motion. Izanagi's turning increased in speed and the consistency began to bring an order to where there had been none. Eventually, the world gained form and became distinct. Izanagi removed his spear and as he lifted the spear point a last few drops of the primordial ooze fell from the tip. These droplets formed the Islands of Japan. The last divine creative act. It became clear to the Gods these Islands formed last, and set apart, were sanctified and the place where the divine could manifest itself.

 

[w_mullender]

Re: On France

Originally posted by Aetius
I remember a legend/fact that Dagobert or Clovis were decendants of Maria Magdalena. Anyone know the details?

It is one of the more far fetched theories/myths.
The templars and Dagobert are said to have believed that Maria Magdalena fled to southern France and had a son after arrival, who must have been the son of Jesus. This son was the ancestor of the earliest french kings. Therefore they were really from divine origin. Unfortunately any (dis)prove is quite lacking. There are some clues that they migh have believed this, but they could also be explained otherwise.