How come the Black Plague isn't black ?

[Rags17]

OMG you can't ask a disease why it is not black .

Oh, so you have to actually have the Black Death to call it Black Death ? That's reverse racism !

Actually, I think officially you can't call it that unless you start to bleed from the eyes and nose. I call it the "one drop of blood" rule.



I'll just let myself out . . .

 

[SaphireSeas]

It absolutely can't be black, because the font -- as you can see in the above images posted by Dahoota -- is black. Paradox would need to do reverse type, making the type white, but the problem is they would need to program that in, since the game is too dumb to recognize what we humans can and cannot read. That could be a pain in the ass to scope to something like that, saying something like:

if = { limit = { black_plague = yes}
reverse_type = yes_damnit
}

Not actually true.

As can be seen, "Elarion" is written with a white halo - the same white halo which allows us to read "Anarien" to the right of the holding construction interface. The real issue with the Black Plague being Black is actually the background colour, which would make it difficult to discern between the Plague and "not the plague".

 

[Xinkc]

Not actually true.

As can be seen, "Elarion" is written with a white halo - the same white halo which allows us to read "Anarien" to the right of the holding construction interface. The real issue with the Black Plague being Black is actually the background colour, which would make it difficult to discern between the Plague and "not the plague".

Look at any independent Teutonic Knight holding. How easy is it to read? Not very easy to me at least.

 

[Fathuran]

People who are saying it would blend in too well are quite right. For the heck of it I played with the color just to see and in my opinion, I'm sticking with scarlet. It's bold and conspicuous. For a map mode, nothing could be better. Clearly They want the oncoming death to get your attention and not a lot shoots off that primordial caution sign more than red.

Spoiler: Color comparison

Anyway, black is able to be seen against the default backdrop, so there's that at least. It's still not very good though imo. As far as it being readable, it's reasonable to me, but that's large text.

Anything lighter just blends into the map, and then we get into how the HRE used to look and well, it's beyond what anyone would want for a Black Death color.

Anyhow, folks can mess with it themselves to get the perfect disease ridden palette if they want, that's what's nice about these things. Keep in mind it changes the checksum, if achievements are your kind of thing.

EDIT:

As an added bonus, toned down the red a bit - three now. First is at 200R, second is 150, and third is 100.

Spoiler: More RED!

 

[RelVleDy]

People who are saying it would blend in too well are quite right. For the heck of it I played with the color just to see and in my opinion, I'm sticking with scarlet. It's bold and conspicuous. For a map mode, nothing could be better. Clearly They want the oncoming death to get your attention and not a lot shoots off that primordial caution sign more than red.

Spoiler: Color comparison

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Anyway, black is able to be seen against the default backdrop, so there's that at least. It's still not very good though imo. As far as it being readable, it's reasonable to me, but that's large text.

Anything lighter just blends into the map, and then we get into how the HRE used to look and well, it's beyond what anyone would want for a Black Death color.

Anyhow, folks can mess with it themselves to get the perfect disease ridden palette if they want, that's what's nice about these things. Keep in mind it changes the checksum, if achievements are your kind of thing.

EDIT:

As an added bonus, toned down the red a bit - three now. First is at 200R, second is 150, and third is 100.

Spoiler: More RED!

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Thanks for showing the comparison. It's surprisingly easier to read than I thought, especially because of the white halo.

 

[JMensch]

All diseases should have been colored with 50 shades of green, as it would please Grandfather Nurgle.

These blue Tzeentchy, red Kornish and pink Slaaneshy are all pretenders of the true plaguemaster, Nurgleish Green!

Glory to the plague father!

 

[St. LongEar]

Somehow that sounds very monty pythonesque.
But I also think it should be brave lunatic rulers who dare say stuff like that.

I thought about Death from Discworld. There were plenty of lunatics as well.

 

[SaphireSeas]

Look at any independent Teutonic Knight holding. How easy is it to read? Not very easy to me at least.

That's a size issue. Because the Teutonic Knights have a long name and they are often small, it is hard to read. I don't think an OPM HRE would be easy to read.

I like that 150...

 

[Heradite]

So if the Black Death can't be black because the default color is black, wouldn't the simple solution be to change the default color?

 

[Thure]

So if the Black Death can't be black because the default color is black, wouldn't the simple solution be to change the default color?

So... which default colour would you choose? Black is the best option for me.

 

[BrokenSky]

It absolutely can't be black, because the font -- as you can see in the above images posted by Dahoota -- is black. Paradox would need to do reverse type, making the type white, but the problem is they would need to program that in, since the game is too dumb to recognize what we humans can and cannot read. That could be a pain in the ass to scope to something like that, saying something like:

if = { limit = { black_plague = yes}
reverse_type = yes_damnit
}

Well there are several ways to do pseudo-black. Dark green, Dark Purple/Blue and Dark Brown mostly. They could run with any of those or something similar...

Even the default colour is basically a dark greyish rather than actual black.

 

[treb]

IMO the black death should be colored Black and Yellow. Then people really would fear it. :O

No, it needs to be green and purple, so you don't forget to thank your court physician.

 

[Dahoota]

People who are saying it would blend in too well are quite right. For the heck of it I played with the color just to see and in my opinion, I'm sticking with scarlet. It's bold and conspicuous. For a map mode, nothing could be better. Clearly They want the oncoming death to get your attention and not a lot shoots off that primordial caution sign more than red.

Spoiler: Color comparison

View attachment 205198 View attachment 205197 View attachment 205200 View attachment 205199 View attachment 205201

Anyway, black is able to be seen against the default backdrop, so there's that at least. It's still not very good though imo. As far as it being readable, it's reasonable to me, but that's large text.

Anything lighter just blends into the map, and then we get into how the HRE used to look and well, it's beyond what anyone would want for a Black Death color.

Anyhow, folks can mess with it themselves to get the perfect disease ridden palette if they want, that's what's nice about these things. Keep in mind it changes the checksum, if achievements are your kind of thing.

EDIT:

As an added bonus, toned down the red a bit - three now. First is at 200R, second is 150, and third is 100.

Spoiler: More RED!

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Thanks for trying it out, while I prefer the current one from a design POV, the 100 is awesome too - its really grim aand foreboding, like the colour of dried blood or something.

It needs to be used for some kind of contagion, like the zombie apocaltpse or something

 

[fargoniac]

Not actually true.

As can be seen, "Elarion" is written with a white halo - the same white halo which allows us to read "Anarien" to the right of the holding construction interface. The real issue with the Black Plague being Black is actually the background colour, which would make it difficult to discern between the Plague and "not the plague".

Woah, what mod is that?

 

[Pile_O_Gunz]

It absolutely can't be black, because the font -- as you can see in the above images posted by Dahoota -- is black. Paradox would need to do reverse type, making the type white, but the problem is they would need to program that in, since the game is too dumb to recognize what we humans can and cannot read. That could be a pain in the ass to scope to something like that, saying something like:

if = { limit = { black_plague = yes}
reverse_type = yes_damnit
}

Black death its in the name !

Codes not that bad just store the state of the infection in your province object.

public void DrawName(Province prov)
{
   if(prov.IsInfected())
         draw(MakeInfectedArgsProbablyWithWhiteText());
     else
        draw(MakeClearDawingArgs();
}

Paint it black !(starts singing "I see a red prov and i want it painted black")

 

[SaphireSeas]

Woah, what mod is that?

It's something I've been working on for a while. I plan on releasing it at some point.
However currently it is very unfinished. That picture is also an older version of the map.