How come the Black Plague isn't black ?

[Rags17]

Okay, so I've had the Black Plague hit and yes it was terrible, but what struck me first and foremost was - why isn't the Black Plague black, as in coloured black on the map ?

Somehow seeing a wave of overwhelming pink heading my way didn't quite fill me with terror, if the map literally went black (or deep slate etc) then I think that it would look a lot more terrifying.

On another topic, it's now 25 years later and Europe and the Middle East is almost back to normal prosperity-wise. All fine and dandy, but shouldn't this take a bit longer ? Yes a whole new generation has arisen, but if 25% of the population has gone then it should take at least 100 years or more to get back to pre-BD population levels, as it did it real life.

 

[achmedino]

Somehow seeing a wave of overwhelming pink heading my way didn't quite fill me with terror.

Pink? You might want to get checked for colour blindness, because if that is pink then China has a beautiful pink flag, and rivers will be flowing pink with blood instead of red.

 

[Xinkc]

It's more of a red. Black would just blend in with the default, no epidemic color.

 

[Dahoota]

I think the heavy red appears more threatening and urgent IMO. It makesit jump out on that map filter.

Also black would make other text layers hard to read.

 

[Kazanov]

Its red because makes you think about communism.

 

[Rags17]

Its red because makes you think about communism.

Ah of course ! The dirty commie plot to take over the West, I should have known !

 

[abauer2]

On another topic, it's now 25 years later and Europe and the Middle East is almost back to normal prosperity-wise. All fine and dandy, but shouldn't this take a bit longer ? Yes a whole new generation has arisen, but if 25% of the population has gone then it should take at least 100 years or more to get back to pre-BD population levels, as it did it real life.

The world didn't return to pre-1343 population levels til the 17th century, so it should be a lot slower. However, from a gameplay standpoint, I can understand not making certain areas completely useless for a couple hundred years. That being said, in my own personal mod, I increased the MTTH for the repopulation events.

For those interested, here's a dummy's guide to the plague: https://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/black_plague.html

 

[SaphireSeas]

It's more of a red. Black would just blend in with the default, no epidemic color.

I think it should be BLOOD red...

 

[orochi2k]

The world didn't return to pre-1343 population levels til the 17th century, so it should be a lot slower. However, from a gameplay standpoint, I can understand not making certain areas completely useless for a couple hundred years. That being said, in my own personal mod, I increased the MTTH for the repopulation events.

For those interested, here's a dummy's guide to the plague: https://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/black_plague.html

Thx Dr.Wheeler .
It's something quite interesting to read.
But in the "How long did the outbreaks last?" entries, I think it missed a big outbreak in China/India around 1850s which killed quite a few millions and then turned into a global outbreak.
Here's more details. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_plague_pandemic

 

[abauer2]

Thx Dr.Wheeler .
It's something quite interesting to read.
But in the "How long did the outbreaks last?" entries, I think it missed a big outbreak in China/India around 1850s which killed quite a few millions and then turned into a global outbreak.
Here's more details. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_plague_pandemic

It really is amazing how many people died from the plague over the centuries.

 

[Knotz]

This is deep red:

The Black Death is closer to punch:

Though I suppose my monitor could be poorly adjusted, it's new. The default is grey and not black and you could fix difficult to read text by highlighting words in white. Ofc, that's going through a lot of effort and I don't actually have that much of a problem with Punch Pink Death.

 

[Dahoota]

This is deep red:

The Black Death is closer to punch:

Though I suppose my monitor could be poorly adjusted, it's new. The default is grey and not black and you could fix difficult to read text by highlighting words in white. Ofc, that's going through a lot of effort and I don't actually have that much of a problem with Punch Pink Death.

Which OS are you playing on? This could be a bit like how the Byzzies appear purple instead of purple-ish red on the Mac and Linux versions of the game. Screenshot from a recent game of mine when the plague was rolling through:

It's plenty red IMO, especially next to the black that most of the rest of the map is in that map filter. Red is like the colour of danger/blood/etc.

 

[misterderp]

OMG you can't ask a disease why it is not black .

 

[orochi2k]

OMG you can't ask a disease why it is not black .

Maybe we can. If we have lunatic rulers. Let's try.

"Black Death! By the name of all that is holy! I represent all lords of the empire, asking you, why you are not black?"

...Silence....

"We have 30k troops here and you have no chance to win! Now! Surrender the answer why you are not black!"
....Silence....
"Okey! We shall now burn everything that is not black for they all can be black death!"

 

[misterderp]

Maybe we can. If we have lunatic rulers. Let's try.

"Black Death! By the name of all that is holy! I represent all lords of the empire, asking you, why you are not black?"

...Silence....

"We have 30k troops here and you have no chance to win! Now! Surrender the answer why you are not black!"
....Silence....
"Okey! We shall now burn everything that is not black for they all can be black death!"

Somehow that sounds very monty pythonesque.
But I also think it should be brave lunatic rulers who dare say stuff like that.

 

[Heiliges Thüringens Reich]

All diseases should have been colored with 50 shades of green, as it would please Grandfather Nurgle.

These blue Tzeentchy, red Kornish and pink Slaaneshy are all pretenders of the true plaguemaster, Nurgleish Green!

 

[magnusvejby]

IMO the black death should be colored Black and Yellow. Then people really would fear it. :O

 

[Iron Chariots]

OMG you can't ask a disease why it is not black .

Damn you, you beat me to it and are therefore superior to me.

 

[Xinkc]

This is deep red:

The Black Death is closer to punch:

Though I suppose my monitor could be poorly adjusted, it's new. The default is grey and not black and you could fix difficult to read text by highlighting words in white. Ofc, that's going through a lot of effort and I don't actually have that much of a problem with Punch Pink Death.

I'm seeing a darker red, like Dahoota's picture, against a dark, charcoal grey. Maybe it is your OS or monitor or something.

 

[RelVleDy]

It absolutely can't be black, because the font -- as you can see in the above images posted by Dahoota -- is black. Paradox would need to do reverse type, making the type white, but the problem is they would need to program that in, since the game is too dumb to recognize what we humans can and cannot read. That could be a pain in the ass to scope to something like that, saying something like:

if = { limit = { black_plague = yes}
reverse_type = yes_damnit
}