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"What needs to happen to have my heir as first in line to inherit (and form a PU)?"

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Lack of an heir would be a good first step ;)
 

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In this case: They need to have your dynasty and no heir, so you can claim throne.
Normal no heir into PU doesn't work because they have PUs of their own.
 

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It's highest development, not highest prestige for dynasty spread. Having negative prestige does not cause you to fall into PU if your ruler dies heirless, that's just false. Prestige is only relevant to PUs in that you need higher prestige than the target to Claim Throne.

The atwix thread is the definitive guide, I'll see if I can find it.

Edit: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ersonal-unions-and-claim-throne.788829/unread
 

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I see one problem though. They seem allied to France, as France has same dynasty. So to even get same dynasty as them, I suggest that YOU flip dynasty @Spikee78

Disinherit your heir when your ruler gets really old, and pray for trastemara heir.

Problem with that? You will lose emperorship...

But trying to get habsburg on their throne and then force Union will work also.
 

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short.

right.


....


:rolleyes:
^^

I mean, compared to the complexity of the topic you summed it up really well.
It's as if you wanted to read "A brief history of time" and found out it's only 10 pages.

Think I read four different guides and three articles containing a quarter of the information.
 

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I see one problem though. They seem allied to France, as France has same dynasty. So to even get same dynasty as them, I suggest that YOU flip dynasty @Spikee78

Disinherit your heir when your ruler gets really old, and pray for trastemara heir.

Problem with that? You will lose emperorship...

But trying to get habsburg on their throne and then force Union will work also.
If you look at their rivals France is one of them so they can't be allied. The alliance most likely broke once the Iberian Wedding happened.
 

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In this case be patient. There is an event that has good odds of firing that will put a habsburg heir on the spanish throne if you are allied and both have France as rival. Just keep relations high and dont punch France so hard they arent viable as rivals any longer.

I cant quite remember in what timespan the event triggers. But in all my latest Austrian games it has triggered.

For now just help them grow and expand in a different direction.
 

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In this case be patient. There is an event that has good odds of firing that will put a habsburg heir on the spanish throne if you are allied and both have France as rival. Just keep relations high and dont punch France so hard they arent viable as rivals any longer.

Not quite correct, you don't need to be allied, you just need a royal marriage. Also whether Austria and Castile rival France doesn't matter, France needs to rival both Austria and Castile

The event fires quite fast once all the triggers are met (Castile also needs a >20 year old king and no heir). You can punch France a bit, if they don't rival you you can remove their rivals (obviously not Castile) in a peace treaty..if you also take land they'll hate you even more and you have a good chance they'll pick you as a rival
 

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In this case be patient. There is an event that has good odds of firing that will put a habsburg heir on the spanish throne if you are allied and both have France as rival. Just keep relations high and dont punch France so hard they arent viable as rivals any longer.

I cant quite remember in what timespan the event triggers. But in all my latest Austrian games it has triggered.

For now just help them grow and expand in a different direction.

Not quite correct, you don't need to be allied, you just need a royal marriage. Also whether Austria and Castile rival France doesn't matter, France needs to rival both Austria and Castile

The event fires quite fast once all the triggers are met (Castile also needs a >20 year old king and no heir). You can punch France a bit, if they don't rival you you can remove their rivals (obviously not Castile) in a peace treaty..if you also take land they'll hate you even more and you have a good chance they'll pick you as a rival
Both of you are forgetting one of the triggers for the event. France and Castile can't have the same dynasty (the second last trigger in the list on the wiki). However, the screenshot says that France (Charles VIII) has the same dynasty as Castile, which means that the event can't trigger.