How can I claim lands that border my vassals?

[mojave2001]

Playing as Castille, I got the Iberian Marriage.
Now i want some Pope-held land, but I have no direct border with the Pope. How can I get his lands?

 

[oros]

You cannot do it yourself.
But you can set the pope provinces as province of interest so your subjects might make claims there.

 

[Ninaran]

"Might" being a very, very, very important word there. Most times you won't get a claim until you annex that vassal.

 

[cuendillar]

In my experience, they do it rather fast. However, I also set my attitude to the fabrication target as hostile. I doubt they'd fabricate at a nation you officially consider a friend, setting a hostile attitude manually should fix that. Not sure about how neutral attitude affects things though.

 

[Bibor]

1. Declare the target nation as hostile.
2. Mark enemy target provinces as essential (red).
3. Sometimes they just won't do it. I guess it depends on vassal's attitude toward target, and perhaps on vassal ruler personality.
4. Being at war with the target, I learned, is a good way to make vassals start fabricating claims before the next war, because their attitude drops.

 

[Badesumofu]

Hostile plus vital interest gets it done more often than not, I've found.

Be aware that taking Rome as a Catholic without being Italy or Roman Empire involves some significant penalties. Check the triggered modifiers screen to what I mean.

 

[mojave2001]

You cannot do it yourself.
But you can set the pope provinces as province of interest so your subjects might make claims there.

"Might" being a very, very, very important word there. Most times you won't get a claim until you annex that vassal.

In my experience, they do it rather fast. However, I also set my attitude to the fabrication target as hostile. I doubt they'd fabricate at a nation you officially consider a friend, setting a hostile attitude manually should fix that. Not sure about how neutral attitude affects things though.

1. Declare the target nation as hostile.
2. Mark enemy target provinces as essential (red).
3. Sometimes they just won't do it. I guess it depends on vassal's attitude toward target, and perhaps on vassal ruler personality.
4. Being at war with the target, I learned, is a good way to make vassals start fabricating claims before the next war, because their attitude drops.

Thanks guys, but I found Portugal was only allied with the Pope, so I killed 2 birds with one stone.
Let's just say Naples now is the biggest power on Italy

Hostile plus vital interest gets it done more often than not, I've found.

Be aware that taking Rome as a Catholic without being Italy or Roman Empire involves some significant penalties. Check the triggered modifiers screen to what I mean.

I'm aware, I let the Pope in Rome, and use it to smash their ally Genoa