How become the Papal controller?

[Davy]

Hi all,

just like the title saids, my only question is: How can i become the papal controller so that I can call crusades? I am playing a Divine wind 5.1 patch game with Castille. I want to call a crusade to attack Marocco to retake my cores and make Spain complete.

Need some help here...

 

[calvinhobbeslik]

Hi all,

just like the title saids, my only question is: How can i become the papal controller so that I can call crusades? I am playing a Divine wind 5.1 patch game with Castille. I want to call a crusade to attack Marocco to retake my cores and make Spain complete.

Need some help here...

If you have cores, you can DOW them anyway. You may not want to call a crusade, as that will encourage other countries to take Moroccan land that is rightfully yours.

 

[Icendoan]

If you want to call a crusade for other reasons, for example that sweet, sweet tax bonus, you need to have the most cardinals in the Holy See. This is a random thing, but is determined by your Papal Influence and the number of Catholic Provinces you have, weighted by those provinces Base Tax.

While you can't do very much about the base tax, what you can do is acquire more catholic provinces, or raise your Papal Influence.

This is done by maintaining good relations with the pope (as close to 200, the better), having low infamy, a narrowminded slider, and as a secondary effect of national ideas such as Unam Sanctum, Church Attendance Duty and Divine Supremacy. CAD in particular is a good idea, and gets you Gilded Iconography, so it's worthwhile taking it anyway.

Your Papal Influence is lowered by you having infamy (remember that this also damages Papal relations!), having bad relations, and having ideas such as the Scientific Revolution.

Castille/Spain shouldn't have much trouble taking and holding the Holy See, especially once you can get lots of good base tax catholic provinces overseas.

 

[Xenophon13]

For some reason I wound up as the Papal controller in my megacampaign despite having no Papal influence, max innovative, the Liberty, Egalitie, Fraternitie national idea, and something like -178 realtions with the Papal State. Anyone know how this happened?

 

[StanislavSoltys]

Luck.

 

[EliteTK]

You can get cardinals even if you have 0% papal influence.

 

[Dutchling]

For some reason I wound up as the Papal controller in my megacampaign despite having no Papal influence, max innovative, the Liberty, Egalitie, Fraternitie national idea, and something like -178 realtions with the Papal State. Anyone know how this happened?

I think cardinals are bound to provinces and not countries, so you could have conquered their hometowns or something.

 

[Xenophon13]

I think cardinals are bound to provinces and not countries, so you could have conquered their hometowns or something.

My only holdings were in the Philippines and eastern Siberia, so it seem unlikely. It probably had something to do with the way the game converted I guess.

 

[midget_roxx]

This really needs a polandball comic to go with it

 

[cuendillar]

For some reason I wound up as the Papal controller in my megacampaign despite having no Papal influence, max innovative, the Liberty, Egalitie, Fraternitie national idea, and something like -178 realtions with the Papal State. Anyone know how this happened?

In some versions, papal influence is reset to zero whenever the pope dies. Any new cardinals at this exact point would be based exclusively off number of Catholic provinces/base tax - as papal influence is identical zero for all nations. If no country controls multiple cardinals, I think the Papal Controller goes to the most prestigious state. It's happened to me a few times too.

 

[Xenophon13]

In some versions, papal influence is reset to zero whenever the pope dies. Any new cardinals at this exact point would be based exclusively off number of Catholic provinces/base tax - as papal influence is identical zero for all nations. If no country controls multiple cardinals, I think the Papal Controller goes to the most prestigious state. It's happened to me a few times too.

That makes sense, since at the time my prestige was in the upper 90's. It's still pretty weird.