¿How ambitious is patch 1.31?

[Traxium318]

We know we are having 100% free content and some content we don't know if it's being included in an inmmersion pack or new expansion. As far it seems like a nice catch-all patch so maybe we are getting everything for free?

- 3 new idea groups is 100% free
- Native north american rework is kinda free, as it is a free rework on Conquest of Paradise
- About South East Asia it's maybe 100% free but I guess it depends on the flavour, like if we are getting new music/units/mechanics i definitely can see an inmersion pack.
- Confirmed naval rebalance its 100% free too.

And maybe we get more content revealed in future Dev Diaries so I'm a bit lost with the patch. Tinto seems to be working on DLC for sure but who knows.

 

[jacopus95]

We know we are having 100% free content and some content we don't know if it's being included in an inmmersion pack or new expansion. As far it seems like a nice catch-all patch so maybe we are getting everything for free?

- 3 new idea groups is 100% free
- Native north american rework is kinda free, as it is a free rework on Conquest of Paradise
- About South East Asia it's maybe 100% free but I guess it depends on the flavour, like if we are getting new music/units/mechanics i definitely can see an inmersion pack.
- Confirmed naval rebalance its 100% free too.

And maybe we get more content revealed in future Dev Diaries so I'm a bit lost with the patch. Tinto seems to be working on DLC for sure but who knows.

I would strongly prefer a total halt on new DLCs and free add-ons development. I'm afraid the direction this game is taking is steering towards the same situation Stellaris is right in now: a game who suffered a heavy (and needed) rework which inevitably brought multiple bugs and broken mechanics never fixed by developers, who chose to add new features which broke the game even more. All of this without addressing previous issues.

A free and fresh new content will last 2 days if the basis is broken. Right now everything added with the Emperor update has huge issues: the merc system doesn't work with AI nations, bringing them to 0 manpower and multiple debts. Which means they won't join wars or they will come out of long ones destroyed. AI nations can't handle the new estate system. The empire is kinda bugged and it often breaks. And much more. Stellaris is already unplayable, i hope they will consider fixing some of their mistakes with EU4 before it is too late.

 

[JaxElite]

Try to understand the development cycle of 1.31. a completely new team is assembled which took a lot of time. Three members of the old team were around (now that neondt left there are two). So while Johan was busy in administrating and setting up in barcelona the other two had to work on individual projects. Neondt used the time for the SEA passion project we saw in earlier dev diaries. Groogy teamed up with EvieHJ to rework North America and Conquest of Paradise. During that time.
The new team in barcelona had to get acustomed with the code and workflow so we see multiple smaller scope things like the new ideas and naval rebalance.

Therefore i expect 1.31 to be an all over the place patch and 1.32 to be the first major update that has a specific scope again.

 

[Xetfield]

Maybe, the Scandinavia will be also touched upon, although I want a Content pack dedicated to them.

 

[Battlex]

We know we are having 100% free content and some content we don't know if it's being included in an inmmersion pack or new expansion. As far it seems like a nice catch-all patch so maybe we are getting everything for free?

- 3 new idea groups is 100% free
- Native north american rework is kinda free, as it is a free rework on Conquest of Paradise
- About South East Asia it's maybe 100% free but I guess it depends on the flavour, like if we are getting new music/units/mechanics i definitely can see an inmersion pack.
- Confirmed naval rebalance its 100% free too.

And maybe we get more content revealed in future Dev Diaries so I'm a bit lost with the patch. Tinto seems to be working on DLC for sure but who knows.

What's this about a navy rebalance? And why are we getting another one

It doesn't seem too ambitious to me, SEA is just op mission trees and some new tags, NA stuff may have been in the works for several years, idea groups is a simple mod

 

[jacopus95]

Try to understand the development cycle of 1.31. a completely new team is assembled which took a lot of time. Three members of the old team were around (now that neondt left there are two). So while Johan was busy in administrating and setting up in barcelona the other two had to work on individual projects. Neondt used the time for the SEA passion project we saw in earlier dev diaries. Groogy teamed up with EvieHJ to rework North America and Conquest of Paradise. During that time.
The new team in barcelona had to get acustomed with the code and workflow so we see multiple smaller scope things like the new ideas and naval rebalance.

Therefore i expect 1.31 to be an all over the place patch and 1.32 to be the first major update that has a specific scope again.

Yes i can understand the human side of it. They have a new team, they are moving people, trying stuff etc.
But they charged me (us) 20 euros for this DLC and it's been broken since day 0. Even though this is a community close to the developers they should never forget we are their costumers, many of us can and have the rights to be disappointed, and are on the right side when they're demanding to be treated as paying costumers.
This thing of justifying their failed releases is not aging well for them. I'm still pissed off by their promises never kept on stellaris, or by their 1.5 year long Emperor DLC and 1.30 patch released in a disgusting state which made the game unplayable for a week or more.

 

[Johan]

We know we are having 100% free content

That is news to me. Who said that?

 

[RobbieAB]

Isn't free kind of binary? It is or it isnt...

 

[magriboy0750]

That is news to me. Who said that?

So there is a paid dlc along 1.31 update.If it's the case,i'm not surprised.Some people have said that this patch will be similar to 1.24 Japan or 1.27 Poland but regarding the amount of reworked content on the patch,i would not be surprised if there is a paid dlc along with it.If you are allowed to,can you comment if the update will be completely free or will there be an unnanounced dlc along with it?
Thanks for any replies about this.

 

[Beagá]

I Just want better AI and less bugs... Rest IS secondary. IMO of course.

 

[Traxium318]

That is news to me. Who said that?

I didnt meant everything was going to be free xD, my bad if was misunderstood as that!

 

[AngelRay]

Can someone point me towards naval rebalance discussion? i seem to have missed it.

 

[Canute VII]

Can someone point me towards naval rebalance discussion? i seem to have missed it.

Will be in next DD.

 

[Me_]

- About South East Asia it's maybe 100% free but I guess it depends on the flavour, like if we are getting new music/units/mechanics i definitely can see an inmersion pack.

I'm pretty sure it has been said somewhere that the SEA content related to mandala government and some pillaging or similar mechanic is to be "paid content", so a DLC.

 

[Traxium318]

So you guys think we are having an immersion pack?

 

[MarkS00N]

We most certainly going to get a Southeast Asia + Oceania DLC, with free Native Council rework (and new ideas plus other balance stuffs).
Neondt said he is not doing the Southeast Asia update for free, unlike Groogy who said he did the Native Council rework during his free time, so this update is not just "passion project", although each regions (Southeast Asia, North America, and Ocenia) are clearly handled by people who are passionate about them.

 

[magriboy0750]

Neondt said he is not doing the Southeast Asia update for free,

Do you have a quote from him for that?I have never saw Neondt said that in a DD,he has simply said that he was not allowed to comment if the patch will be free or not.So,if you have a quote from him,i'd like to see it.
Thanks for any replies about this.

 

[MarkS00N]

Do you have a quote from him for that?I have never saw Neondt said that in a DD,he has simply said that he was not allowed to comment if the patch will be free or not.So,if you have a quote from him,i'd like to see it.
Thanks for any replies about this.

It's in Khmer Dev Diary.

All of the content in these dev diaries is made on company time according to a design I wrote last year under Jake's guidance. As much as I love my job I certainly wouldn't do all this for free.

 

[Republic of Mercury]

It's in Khmer Dev Diary.

Just because the dev is paid to do something doesn't mean it won't be released in a free update.

That is news to me. Who said that?

I believe what was meant was "The update will contain content that is 100% free" not "100% of the content in the update is free."

 

[MarkS00N]

Just because the dev is paid to do something doesn't mean it won't be released in a free update.

But I don't mean that? What I mean to say is that Neondt is not doing it for free, so the Southeast Asia update is not simply a "passion project" as someone mentioned earlier in this thread (and I read somewhere else in this forum and reddit), unlike Groogy who clearly said that Native Council rework is his passion project.

The Southeat Asia + Oceania as DLC prediction comes from the fact that there are simply too many missions for a free update (from the last two free updates - Poland and Manchu - we only get about four new missions in each update, Southeast Asia clearly got a lot more), there is a new religion for Australia, and the fact that there are features they haven't revealed yet (i.e. mandala reform).