How AI choses which Idea Groups to take?

[Wizzington]

AI picks from historical ideas in order but tries to balance out the groups, so if it goes like DIP - MIL - MIL - ADM - ADM it will choose DIP - MIL - ADM - MIL - ADM.

I wish they got rid of most prescripted choices of idea groups and instead relied on some clever scripting using modifiers, for the rare occasions of seeing Ireland or Morocco being early colonizers.

That's the plan, I just need time to implement and properly test it. Won't be in 1.8 unfortunately, but quite possibly next major patch.

 

[herrhals]

AI picks from historical ideas in order but tries to balance out the groups, so if it goes like DIP - MIL - MIL - ADM - ADM it will choose DIP - MIL - ADM - MIL - ADM.



That's the plan, I just need time to implement and properly test it. Won't be in 1.8 unfortunately, but quite possibly next major patch.

That sounds really exciting, actually. I can't wait for that!

 

[AureliusBob]

That's the plan, I just need time to implement and properly test it. Won't be in 1.8 unfortunately, but quite possibly next major patch.

Awesome.

I think that, for me at least, is the most underrated change to come. Depending on how deep the scripting goes, dynamic idea groups will keep us guessing as to who to fight. Who knows, I might actually have to worry about that English stack landing on my shores if they've won the HYW and took offensive/defensive as their 1st choice...

 

[CzokletMuss]

AI picks from historical ideas in order but tries to balance out the groups, so if it goes like DIP - MIL - MIL - ADM - ADM it will choose DIP - MIL - ADM - MIL - ADM.

That's the plan, I just need time to implement and properly test it. Won't be in 1.8 unfortunately, but quite possibly next major patch.

Awesome, thanks for responding So when picking ideas from a historical set when AI balances out the groups it takes an idea group of other type (MIL, ADM, DIP) from the list or randomly?

I mean if we have Aragon:

historical_idea_groups = {
	maritime_ideas
	quantity_ideas
	religious_ideas
	trade_ideas
	naval_ideas
[B]	economic_ideas (ADM)
	innovativeness_ideas (ADM)[/B]
	offensive_ideas
}

and we have two consecutive ADM ideas, will the AI take offensive - next non-ADM idea - or just some random non-ADM idea, for instance Quality?

 

[Wizzington]

Awesome, thanks for responding So when picking ideas from a historical set when AI balances out the groups it takes an idea group of other type (MIL, ADM, DIP) from the list or randomly?

I mean if we have Aragon:

historical_idea_groups = {
	maritime_ideas
	quantity_ideas
	religious_ideas
	trade_ideas
	naval_ideas
[B]	economic_ideas (ADM)
	innovativeness_ideas (ADM)[/B]
	offensive_ideas
}

and we have two consecutive ADM ideas, will the AI take offensive - next non-ADM idea - or just some random non-ADM idea, for instance Quality?

The order will be maritime -> quantity -> religious -> trade -> naval -> economic -> offensive -> innovativeness

 

[Hrayert]

Thought a bit about Poland.

historical_idea_groups = {
diplomatic_ideas
aristocracy_ideas
humanist_ideas
trade_ideas
offensive_ideas
administrative_ideas
defensive_ideas
quality_ideas
}

Wouldnt changing the place on humanist and aristocracy prevent Poland from imploding every single time they either integrate Lithuania or create the commonwealth? Would also give the player more than ~50 years to conquer all of Poland before the pesky 100% coring cost. Sure, 100% coring cost for a country that is about as big as Georgia is fine. But the entire PLC with 100% coring cost is just insane.

 

[Pugman]

Thought a bit about Poland.

historical_idea_groups = {
diplomatic_ideas
aristocracy_ideas
humanist_ideas
trade_ideas
offensive_ideas
administrative_ideas
defensive_ideas
quality_ideas
}

Wouldnt changing the place on humanist and aristocracy prevent Poland from imploding every single time they either integrate Lithuania or create the commonwealth? Would also give the player more than ~50 years to conquer all of Poland before the pesky 100% coring cost. Sure, 100% coring cost for a country that is about as big as Georgia is fine. But the entire PLC with 100% coring cost is just insane.

Yes. When I play Poland I take Humanism first every time.

 

[Wizzington]

Thought a bit about Poland.

historical_idea_groups = {
diplomatic_ideas
aristocracy_ideas
humanist_ideas
trade_ideas
offensive_ideas
administrative_ideas
defensive_ideas
quality_ideas
}

Wouldnt changing the place on humanist and aristocracy prevent Poland from imploding every single time they either integrate Lithuania or create the commonwealth? Would also give the player more than ~50 years to conquer all of Poland before the pesky 100% coring cost. Sure, 100% coring cost for a country that is about as big as Georgia is fine. But the entire PLC with 100% coring cost is just insane.

Probably not a bad idea.

 

[DanubianCossak]

Nuuuuu

Polska delinda est!

So say we all.

 

[solidprice]

Wow great future ideas for dynamic ideas wiz!

more nations colonizing would be funny.
Blocked western Europe off/ all of Europe imploded due to mass war religious conflict? Lol nope Morocco and ming are colonizing now.

 

[CzokletMuss]

The order will be maritime -> quantity -> religious -> trade -> naval -> economic -> offensive -> innovativeness

Awesome, thanks for answering Wiz, you're the best.