How about splitting Silistria?

[Grand Historian]

At the request of @EldarPanic , I've decided to create this little thread; a request to split the province of Silistra in two; Silistra in the south, and Dobruja in the north. Since I'm so big on visual demonstrations for these types of threads, here's my (admittedly poor) example via paint:

Dobruja, as a province, would be owned by the Ottomans, have both Wallachian and Bulgarian cores, and be Orthodox/Bulgarian. In addition to making the borders better and being a small buff to the Ottos, it would also help better represent the 'Form Romania' decision as it wouldn't require all of Silistra. Likewise, I would like to bring up the possibility of a Dobruja/Karvuna tag; an independent Bulgarian Principality that, at it's height, spanned across the provinces Dobruja, Silistra and Mesembria - the last remnants of it in Dobruja having only faded away some three decades prior to gamestart due to falling under Wallachia's influence (and as Bulgaria is quite big in comparison to its neighbors - and you can't always demand it be released from the Ottos because of that - I think it has a good basis for inclusion).

So, that's my case for it, and thank you for reading.

 

[Maq]

I believe the name of the town is Silistra, Turkish Silistre, and nothing like Silistria ever existed.

 

[Grand Historian]

I believe the name of the town is Silistra, Turkish Silistre, and nothing like Silistria ever existed.

Thanks, fixed that.

 

[EldarPanic]

Very nice thread and also very nice worded, also the city in the Silistre region should be moved on the Danube.

Also these changes fix the problem when the Russians take Bassarabia, they never took northern Dobrogea

 

[AhoyDeerrr]

Isn't the border as it is currently because that is how the borders generally were during the period? I mean the border that this proposes did not really exist until after the period and I think the current setup is a bit more universally acceptable for the many different province ownership scenarios that could well appear due to EUIV's sandboxy nature.

I think it would be better if they just split Silistra in two, a province in the south possible called Varna and Silistra for the northern half but keeping the northern border as is.

 

[Grand Historian]

Isn't the border as it is currently because that is how the borders generally were during the period? I mean the border that this proposes did not really exist until after the period and I think the current setup is a bit more universally acceptable for the many different province ownership scenarios that could well appear due to EUIV's sandboxy nature.

Not really. The Danube has served as a northern border since Byzantine times.

 

[123e55]

+1.
There were many topics on this subject,let's hope this one will have luck.

 

[Grand Historian]

+1.
There were many topics on this subject,let's hope this one will have luck.

Really? Admittedly, I haven't seen that many as their own suggestion.

 

[Mingmung]

A reminder that this needs to happen, for it is a great suggestion.

 

[TheDungen]

Really? Admittedly, I haven't seen that many as their own suggestion.

Can't say I have ever seen this one specifically before but there are many posts like this one about minor map tweaks, most of them are good ones, let's hope paradox notices.

+1

 

[withche.07]

Very great suggestion! Please fix and add more details to balkans & anatolia right after Hungary, paradox!

 

[AirikrStrife]

There has been so. many. suggestions. about splitting Silistria xd I think I made two myself. One being a three way split to include a genoese trading post (Chilia) in the danube delta

 

[AndrejK]

I am notvsure whether it was majority Bulgarian.if yes , thes then it should be implemented

 

[EldarPanic]

I am notvsure whether it was majority Bulgarian.if yes , thes then it should be implemented

The north was a majority Romanian where the south was Bulgarian, then the Turks came and they became the majority.
PS: If you want accurate borders just play Beyond Typus 5.0 as this will never be implemented.

 

[Metz]

Since the topic here is eastern Balkans, can any Bulgarian experts offer a boost to Bulgaria?

 

[Grand Historian]

Since the topic here is eastern Balkans, can any Bulgarian experts offer a boost to Bulgaria?

Dobruja would be.