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Excellent timing, I was quite frustrated with my recent PLC run breaking its achievements, but other than that, I've found this to be the most overall solid expac release to date. Keep up the good work.
 

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Wiz I didn't see anything in the hotfix about rebels. Am I to assume that rebels are working as intended because it sure feels like it's ruined both games I've tried to play since release. I really don't want to play the game if I'm afraid of getting rebel spams larger than my force limit.
 
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Some good stuff. Just to clarify, are forts still going to trap armies? Your description says that an occupied fort can inflict ZoC in the area around it. If Poland were to siege down a Lithuanian fort with a Lithuanian army next to it, will Lithuania then be incapable of retreating from the vicinity due to having no entry point?

Wiz I didn't see anything in the hotfix about rebels. Am I to assume that rebels are working as intended

At least one significant change wasn't documented, so assuming it's WAI is a bit of a stretch. It'd be nice to know, however, since as it stands it's a viable bug report to see a significant change to the game state without it being clear on intent.
 
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Wiz I didn't see anything in the hotfix about rebels. Am I to assume that rebels are working as intended because it sure feels like it's ruined both games I've tried to play since release. I really don't want to play the game if I'm afraid of getting rebel spams larger than my force limit.

Well, it's not always the end of the world to fall to rebels. And often historically accurate.
 
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Well, it's not always the end of the world to fall to rebels. And often historically accurate.

For the record, in my own PLC game, I had some moderate issues with the Estates, but I never saw rebels on the scale he's seeing -- and rebels for Lithuania would spawn based on the strength of Lith's FL I think, not Poland's. It could just have been bad luck -- my own rebel issues didn't get really bad until I accidentally let the church usurp control of the state after forming the Commonwealth, due to Lith having a ton of Clergy land that I failed to promptly revoke. Managed to wrest back control after a fun period of warring while dealing with unrest and the occasional rebellion, adn that's when I noticed my cheevos were broken, which was moderately bothersome (I'd planned on finally getting Poland into space, which I've been putting off as I normally dislike playing nations that are large at the start.)

I'm not saying he's lying, and obviously that experience must have sucked, but, especially with Poland's legitimacy issues in the Elective Monarchy, pretender rebels in Lith are not uncommon.
 

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Just tested, the annoying Pause behavior is still there... shouldn't that be an easy fix? I have only seen complaints about it, no one defending the new behavior, how come it is still there?

I haven't seen what pause behavior you mean myself, pausing feels the same as it did before...is there something specific?
 
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For the record, in my own PLC game, I had some moderate issues with the Estates, but I never saw rebels on the scale he's seeing -- and rebels for Lithuania would spawn based on the strength of Lith's FL I think, not Poland's. It could just have been bad luck -- my own rebel issues didn't get really bad until I accidentally let the church usurp control of the state after forming the Commonwealth, due to Lith having a ton of Clergy land that I failed to promptly revoke. Managed to wrest back control after a fun period of warring while dealing with unrest and the occasional rebellion, adn that's when I noticed my cheevos were broken, which was moderately bothersome (I'd planned on finally getting Poland into space, which I've been putting off as I normally dislike playing nations that are large at the start.)

I'm not saying he's lying, and obviously that experience must have sucked, but, especially with Poland's legitimacy issues in the Elective Monarchy, pretender rebels in Lith are not uncommon.

Oh, I'm seeing the revolts in my game. 11k troop Muscovy just had like 45k of noble rebels fire at once. I'm just saying that you can't win them all ;) Just like with wars, sometimes you declare and month into the war they get an alliance with the Turk so you rush the capital for white peace.

For Poland into Space I'd probably go with Back to the Piast achievement :)
 
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Closing any notification window will always unpause the game. This was not the behavior before.

Ah, I haven't noticed because I tend to spam pause either way probably, but yeah that seems weird -- good if the window popping up is what caused the pause, weird otherwise.
 

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Thank you for this very quick fix on the most gamebreaking bugs :)
 
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