Horizon Signal - Increased Chance?

[Spidee]

Hi guys,

question - I have started 4 games with Apoc and in 3 of them I have had Horizon signal. Has the chance to get the event been significantly increased or are the Dice gods just having some fun.
Also has it been debugged in the beta?
Thank you,
Peter

 

[stilgarpl]

You can trigger Horizon Signal in any of your games (unless you are playing as Hive Mind or Machine Empire). Just have a ship go in and out a system with black hole. It will trigger eventually.

Before 2.0 I build wormhole station on Black Holes, so my ships will have to travel through them, eventually triggering the event chain.

 

[Studoku]

Hyperlanes mean ships pass through more systems so you get more instances of a science ship entering a black hole system.

 

[MrParadux]

I had a different experience. In a few games I tried to force the event, like I sometimes did in the past (Because intelligent Synths are fun). It took noticeably longer than in the past. Granted, this is just my experience in a few games and I haven't looked at the numbers, but in those instances it took way longer.

 

[nathelbiya]

I never managed it to trigger so far, not before 2.0, not now.

 

[stilgarpl]

I never managed it to trigger so far, not before 2.0, not now.

Maybe you don't have the DLC enabled?

 

[Spidee]

Guys, I seem to remember, that Wiz wrote somewhere, that the chance roll is made only for the 1st science ship (of your empire) entering a black hole system. Precisely to remove this cheese.
Also, does AI have it, or is it a player only thing?

 

[DragonShadow]

I haven't gotten Horizon Signal since before 2.0

 

[Blodo]

I still haven't gotten Horizon Signal even once despite 550 hours logged... extremely unlucky I guess?

 

[FleetingRain]

Guys, I seem to remember, that Wiz wrote somewhere, that the chance roll is made only for the 1st science ship (of your empire) entering a black hole system. Precisely to remove this cheese.
Also, does AI have it, or is it a player only thing?

AI-only exactly because they want the player to have fun.

And I remember reading something about that too but it's a lie, both times I got this event were by a repeated visit to the system.

 

[Defiler99]

I just confirmed, in case anyone is wondering, that even in the latest 2.0.2 beta, you can still "farm" this event.
It took about 120 black hole system visits, but eventually I got it triggered with a throwaway scientist.
I hope they don't change this, because otherwise almost no-one will get to experience it.

Edit: Ouch; the second name it called for was my level 9 core sector governor. I've never had it ask for someone who wasn't a scientist before.

 

[nathelbiya]

Maybe you don't have the DLC enabled?

I have it enabled, checked that multiple times.

 

[Itsalive]

I even sent @Wiz a question about this, since I used to force the event each game; but in the last 2 run was unable to replicate post patch (2 prolonged attempts of 2 science ships at +100 orders jumping in and out each game). I figured he may have stealth changed the parameters of this event. Didn't get a reply on it though.

 

[WhiteKyubey]

I tried to mod the chance, but it looks like I cannot understand where the roll is happening. I put some extra comments in the code, showing where the other checks to trigger this event are:
- you need a scientist
- the system should be black hole
- works on player empires only
- empire should not be machine empire or hive
But I just cannot find how the 5% chance work here. Does anybody know?

Spoiler: Code

# triggered by on_entering_system_fleet
# chance to trigger the first time a player enters a black hole system
fleet_event = {
   id = akx.9000
   title = akx.9000.name
   desc = akx.9000.desc
   picture = GFX_evt_black_hole
   show_sound = event_alien_signal
   location = event_target:horizonsignal_black_hole

   is_triggered_only = yes

   fire_only_once = yes  

   trigger = {
       NOT = { has_global_flag = akx.9000.fired }                   # *See where this is set
       owner = {
           is_ai = no                                               # AI cannot trigger it
           NOT = { has_ethic = ethic_gestalt_consciousness }       # Hive and Machine empires cannot trigger it
       }
       from = { # solar system scope
           is_star_class = sc_black_hole                           # Can happen only in a system with black hole
           NOT = { has_star_flag = guardian }                       # No events in black holes with guardians (Infinity Machine and Dimentional Horror black holes are no good)
       }
       exists = leader
       leader = {
           leader_class = scientist                               # You need a scientist to trigger it
       }
   }

   immediate = {
       set_global_flag = akx.9000.fired                           # Once it's triggered it cannot be done again (see *)
       solar_system = {
           set_star_flag = horizonsignal_system                   
           random_system_planet = {
               limit = {
                   is_star = yes                                   
               }
               save_global_event_target_as = horizonsignal_black_hole
           }
           save_global_event_target_as = horizonsignal_system
       }
   }

   option = {
       name = OK
       from = {
           random_system_planet = {
               limit = {
                   is_star = yes
               }
               enable_special_project = {
                   name  = HORIZON_SIGNAL_PROJECT
                   location = this
                   owner = root.owner
               }
           }
       }
   }
}

 

[Jean-Luc]

Yeah, I also got it to trigger by driving a science ship back and forth. Only took several tries.

 

[CrazyZombie]

You can trigger Horizon Signal in any of your games (unless you are playing as Hive Mind or Machine Empire). Just have a ship go in and out a system with black hole. It will trigger eventually.

Before 2.0 I build wormhole station on Black Holes, so my ships will have to travel through them, eventually triggering the event chain.

I just confirmed, in case anyone is wondering, that even in the latest 2.0.2 beta, you can still "farm" this event.
It took about 120 black hole system visits, but eventually I got it triggered with a throwaway scientist.
I hope they don't change this, because otherwise almost no-one will get to experience it.

Edit: Ouch; the second name it called for was my level 9 core sector governor. I've never had it ask for someone who wasn't a scientist before.

Wow, that was pretty helpful, gentlemen. Thanks.

What is the major condition? System unresearched? It can be just the same, as I understand, right?

P.S. After I found that can build spiral energy hub in habitats, Horizon Signal has become pretty valuable event chain for me. Good institute, good other buildings.

 

[Mordack]

But I just cannot find how the 5% chance work here. Does anybody know?

I think it is in the 00_on_actions.txt file that can be found in the common/on_actions/ folder.
By Ctrl + f "akx.9000" I found this (at the end of the code) :

Spoiler

on_entering_system_fleet = {
   events = {
       action.40
       country.211
       country.1002
       anomaly.3095
       country.204
       country.205
       country.206
       story.218
       story.220
       story.330
       #story.408
       anomaly.3114
       anomaly.3115
       nomad.3
       nomad.7
       nomad.8
       guardian.96
       guardian.1005
       pirate.10
       guardian.610
       guardian.1030
       akx.9200
       akx.9300
       akx.9600
       akx.9610
   }
   random_events = {
       99 = 0
       1 = akx.9000
   }
}

So it seems to be 1% chance of getting the event by entering into a black hole system.

 

[Itsalive]

Ah seems I just got sper unlucky then in the last runs, thanks for clearing that up guys.

 

[WhiteKyubey]

I think it is in the 00_on_actions.txt file that can be found in the common/on_actions/ folder.
By Ctrl + f "akx.9000" I found this (at the end of the code) :
So it seems to be 1% chance of getting the event by entering into a black hole system.

Thanks a lot, I did not think about looking for it there!

 

[Count Hasimir Fenring]

I have 120 hours in the game, all of that post HS release and have never gotten the chain once. Just RNG.