"Hordes can't be Marches" -> Or make non-Hordes Marches

[MadDjinn]

While I expect that the dev made it so that Hordes can't be marches for a good reason, I'm not sure that preventing them for having marches is part of that plan.

Playing as QQ, I full annexed/released Georgia (Eastern tech group, has own ideas, emirate post release) and get told that Hordes can't be Marches when I tried to make them one.

Is this intended?

 

[TheMeInTeam]

It seems a bit odd in either direction; marches are boosted yes but you also take a stability hit and a BIG relations penalty to revert them. A horde seems like a bottom-tier candidate for a march, expressly because they tend to throw dated units into the fray pretty early. It seems rather odd to restrict them as marches when it would generally be a bad idea to make them one lol.

 

[MadDjinn]

It seems a bit odd in either direction; marches are boosted yes but you also take a stability hit and a BIG relations penalty to revert them. A horde seems like a bottom-tier candidate for a march, expressly because they tend to throw dated units into the fray pretty early. It seems rather odd to restrict them as marches when it would generally be a bad idea to make them one lol.

Given that you can use the Horde CB if they are a vassal, then it sort of makes sense to not let them be a march on top of that.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Given that you can use the Horde CB if they are a vassal, then it sort of makes sense to not let them be a march on top of that.

Not really. A march is a strict downgrade after 50 years, and you pay for that in stability and inability to annex them for a long time. You get the CB either way, and the marginal value of march bonuses during the small window where horde units are worth your time isn't exactly amazing.