Holy War Leeches

[AwesomeKeith]

This happens with all sorts of wars, but mostly holy wars.

Situation: I'm a member of Religion A. Neighbors of Religion A are all around me, but near both of us, members of Religion B. I holy war a neighbor with 2 or more provinces. I crush their army, start sieging.. And all the counts of Religion A declare and start sieging, and because of the way Holy Wars especially work, they get half or more of the land when I finally peace. This is especially annoying in duchies with even numbers of holdings so I often can't form the duchy.

I get that it's technically realistic for them to pounce on a weakened foe... But why must things occupied by them at peace go to them, unlike any other war type? Why can't the person who did all the work get the land like other war types? It's just plain annoying. At least with claim wars you can kill off the competition, too.

 

[clockworkBabbag]

This happens with all sorts of wars, but mostly holy wars.

Situation: I'm a member of Religion A. Neighbors of Religion A are all around me, but near both of us, members of Religion B. I holy war a neighbor with 2 or more provinces. I crush their army, start sieging.. And all the counts of Religion A declare and start sieging, and because of the way Holy Wars especially work, they get half or more of the land when I finally peace. This is especially annoying in duchies with even numbers of holdings so I often can't form the duchy.

I get that it's technically realistic for them to pounce on a weakened foe... But why must things occupied by them at peace go to them, unlike any other war type? Why can't the person who did all the work get the land like other war types? It's just plain annoying. At least with claim wars you can kill off the competition, too.

Because that's the way it works, is what it comes down to. For a better justification, holy wars aren't claim wars and you don't have any legitimate claim to the land you're taking. It's just straight up conquest. Winning the war therefore shouldn't be guaranteed to give you the entire duchy title you're warring for, just what you actually managed to control.

A good solution is to make sure you have some levies on a province before someone else gets there.

 

[Aries666]

Yep if you can spare enough men just make sure you have even as few as 50 troops on a province when the others arrive you will retain control of the siege but they will be the ones progressing it . Additionally the AI will never try and raise troops from a province that has even a single enemy soldier on it. This can be cheesed in other ways too, like if you expect to fail in imprisoning a powerful but troublesome duke who you would rather not fight

 

[Sirrobert1]

Yep if you can spare enough men just make sure you have even as few as 50 troops on a province when the others arrive you will retain control of the siege but they will be the ones progressing it . Additionally the AI will never try and raise troops from a province that has even a single enemy soldier on it. This can be cheesed in other ways too, like if you expect to fail in imprisoning a powerful but troublesome duke who you would rather not fight

That's how I make Gavelkind work. After succession, plot to revoke (no tyranny), park army on my brother's capital, and done

 

[Aries666]

That's how I make Gavelkind work. After succession, plot to revoke (no tyranny), park army on my brother's capital, and done

Also makes controlling nomad Khans super easy, just wait for them to move their army off their camp.