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Alerias

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They obviously wont answer in detail prior to the inevitable HRE dev diary.

This being said, the HRE still exists, has the same icon with a percentile number beneath it than before on the new interface, and is not amongst the cut features. EUIV is being designed with Divine Wind as a basis. This points to the HRE being still overall similar in some ways to what it was before mechanically, but its likely that exact numbers and bonuses for each step of the centralization process will have been updated. After all, some of the old systems it involved, notably badboy, do not even exist anymore.
 

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I hope, that they´ll change many things from DW, the setup in DW is very unrealistic. In my opinion, they could use the modell from SRI, but the same modell was used in MM, and they already said they won´t use any systems from MM. What a shame. :(
 

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It was always stupid how the only HRE reforms were ahistorical ones that made the HRE less HRE-ish. Ideally the reforms should be less linear and there should be some ones that start in place and can be revoked.
 

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It was always stupid how the only HRE reforms were ahistorical ones that made the HRE less HRE-ish. Ideally the reforms should be less linear and there should be some ones that start in place and can be revoked.

Perhaps they made the HRE less like the HRE since they represent an Emperor being able to persuade/force the empire to cede him more and more control, until eventually they essentially hand over their crowns and retire to be minor lords in a unified state.
 

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Perhaps they made the HRE less like the HRE since they represent an Emperor being able to persuade/force the empire to cede him more and more control, until eventually they essentially hand over their crowns and retire to be minor lords in a unified state.

Well, obviously.

The problem is that the ahistorical option is the only option and the only thing to aspire to.

It would be like making a game about USA politics where the only end game option was to join the Commonwealth of Nations.
 

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Well, what else would you like to do with the HRE? After all, you can continue to lead it as a loose association of states, you can unite it into an actual state, or you can dissolve it. You can also go only part way down the uniting route if you prefer.

Or you could just culture shift if necessary, become Germany, and take it from there.
 

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Perhaps they made the HRE less like the HRE since they represent an Emperor being able to persuade/force the empire to cede him more and more control, until eventually they essentially hand over their crowns and retire to be minor lords in a unified state.

But they shouldn't represent that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Reform

Rather, they should represent federalisation and streamlining of important military and administrative functions in the HRE. These new institutions were not necessarily under any direct control of the Emperor, so more than anything they represented a bid to counteract the internal unrest the feudalisation caused.