does anyone know where gets paradox this minority ratios? iam just curious flensburg and lauenburg have way to much danes in it. few danes remain in germany now. and now we have the flensburg frontier. its not such a big deal, but im curious.
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I don't know much about German 19th century demographics, but, is it possible that there were danes there and they just left after the conquest? It's the same reason there aren't any Germans left in Silesia today.Tresckow said:
Just pointing out the obvious possible answer.
holstein had a danish majority pre 1864 but after that may immigratet to the north plus many were sent out to fight for the kaiser in the great war
Nerfix said:
Seems a tad long to me. "Where ya from?" "Saxe-Coburg-Gotha" "Saxe-Coburg whaaaa? You know, just say you're from over there." >If my German ancestors heard me say that they'd probably come for me...... >looks around<<
I always thought "Prussia" was a cool name, until a stupid girl in my history class ruined it for me.
She looked at the map on the board as asked "Teacher, what's Pee Russia?"
She looked at the map on the board as asked "Teacher, what's Pee Russia?"
I wonder where my German ancestors came? Propably from either Hannover, Lübeck, Prussia or Hamburg.
About 15, I'd say. Looking back on it, it really wasn't that bad considering there were people in my twelfth grade government class who didn't know what the word "fascist" meant.Lethke said:
(Here's the story: We took this test to determine our political leanings. it asked you questions and gave you points dpending on your answers. At the end, you plotted your score on a grid and it told you where you fell politically.
I, as expected, fell towards the conservative end of the liberal spectrum. My friend, as expected, fell towards the liberal end of the conservative spectrum.
Across the room, a girl raised her hand.
"Ms. Ellis," she asked, "What's a Faskist?"
"Oh, you mean Fashist. It's a very, very conservative political leaning," the teacher replied, "Why?"
"It says that's what I am.")
strange school that is. Don't you have classes with the same intelligence grouped? Thats at least our system, and I can't imagine someone with an IQ > 130 asking such questions, even if he (or she) is 12.
Memnon said:
When I was about that age a girl in my physics class asked if you could see gravity. :wacko:
Surprisingly the Danish population was high all the way to Hamberg before the Napolians Defeat againest the Allies (the first time 1813). The City was part of Denmark before the war and had to give the city and Norway up during the peace talks.
I studied Danish history as I built a minatures Danish Army.
The interesting thing is that when King Burnadot of Sweden (Sorry for the spelling) started organizing the Allies after 1812, Prussia and Austria wanted Denmark to side with them and was about to tell the Sweds to F***off. But after the Danes had been beaten badly twice by UK, (First by Adm Nelson, Then Lord Wellington ... Like they had a chance with either time), Denmark decide to keep allied to France. (bad mistake).
After the war many Danes just packed up and headed north or was pushed out by Germans.
I think my info is correct, if anything is wrong please tell me. I know there has to be atleast on Danish person who plays this game.
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I studied Danish history as I built a minatures Danish Army.
The interesting thing is that when King Burnadot of Sweden (Sorry for the spelling) started organizing the Allies after 1812, Prussia and Austria wanted Denmark to side with them and was about to tell the Sweds to F***off. But after the Danes had been beaten badly twice by UK, (First by Adm Nelson, Then Lord Wellington ... Like they had a chance with either time), Denmark decide to keep allied to France. (bad mistake).
After the war many Danes just packed up and headed north or was pushed out by Germans.
I think my info is correct, if anything is wrong please tell me. I know there has to be atleast on Danish person who plays this game.
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Memnon said:
Bwahahahaha... ohhh.. funny stuff. But actually, there was a girl in my class who didn't know what a fascist was either. This is in the same grade i suppose..(i'm 18). She didn't find out she was one in a political test though.
In my class in gymnasium we have this group of incredible stupid girls (but their grades are okay?)
But anyway we were having cold war history and one of the girls raised her hand and asked "what is the name of that big river going through Europe on my map? (She was thinking of the Berlin wall)
Another time she asked if Karl Marx wasn’t the guy who draws Donald duck comics (nop that would be Carl barks)
She is also the kind of person who in geography has problems pointing out Australia, China, Brazil and such exotic countries on a world map.
I guess it would be funny if the got low grades, but they don’t…. I guess it haves its advantages being a blond.
But anyway we were having cold war history and one of the girls raised her hand and asked "what is the name of that big river going through Europe on my map? (She was thinking of the Berlin wall)
Another time she asked if Karl Marx wasn’t the guy who draws Donald duck comics (nop that would be Carl barks)
She is also the kind of person who in geography has problems pointing out Australia, China, Brazil and such exotic countries on a world map.
I guess it would be funny if the got low grades, but they don’t…. I guess it haves its advantages being a blond.
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Well, I've been doing some research on the German-Danish Crisis, and nowhere can I find any statements as to the population totals of Danes or Germans in the duchies. Yet many of the documents I've been reading suggest that, prior to the crisis, there was a Danish nationalist movement in the duchies to try to enforce a Danish character upon them (ie. that Danis was made the official language of the schools and churches, etc.), so this indicates to me that there probably was indeed a Danish majority in the region.
The history of the two duchies, which I can now claim to be familiar with, also seem to have been more Danish than German overall. What I mean is that tehy's always seemed to have had more of a practical connection with Denmark than any theoretical connection they might have had to the Holy Roman Empire, of which they were technically a part (at least for a little while).
Basically, I can find no evidence one way or another to support the Danish majority in the provinces.
The history of the two duchies, which I can now claim to be familiar with, also seem to have been more Danish than German overall. What I mean is that tehy's always seemed to have had more of a practical connection with Denmark than any theoretical connection they might have had to the Holy Roman Empire, of which they were technically a part (at least for a little while).
Basically, I can find no evidence one way or another to support the Danish majority in the provinces.
I dont know much about the Danes in North Germany (being South german ),
but concerning Silesia I might give some Information.
Germans in Silesia, Eastern Prussia and Sudeten had to leave after the occupation by the Sowjetunion after WWII, it was in fact the biggest emigrations that ever happened (not only germans were afflicted though).
),but concerning Silesia I might give some Information.
Germans in Silesia, Eastern Prussia and Sudeten had to leave after the occupation by the Sowjetunion after WWII, it was in fact the biggest emigrations that ever happened (not only germans were afflicted though).
A strong Danish majority survived in northern Holstein until the end of WW1, in fact a plebiscite was held there after Germany's defeat and the northern parts of the duchy opted to join Denmark.